You’re criticised for your absolutely fanatical adherence to a theory you invented based on a different expansion and feelings despite all evidence to the contrary and then you write long winded pseudo intellectual diatribe when people call it out.
You derail threads with your nonsensical beliefs like a cultist trying to convince us all to drink the koolaid when we factually know its bad koolaid.
You are either trolling to the absolute max or completely unable to grasp reality and you’re dragging down the whole community as you go - as evidenced by blizzard needing to nuke your posts.
In my experience, it looks like he’s pseudo-trolling. Essentially, he posted something that was proven wrong, so now he’s trying to convince people he’s a troll. At some point, he’ll probably leave the obligatory “I was trolling the whole time and you guys fell for it.” comment. I just try to pretend his comments aren’t there.
If I have to explain it one more time for the rock-bangers…
You mean THREE different expansions? To MAIN A MARKSMAN in that time takes being fanatical as a minimum. Ever since Legion, the stat that has always been important was MASTERY. The stat that has always diminished in importance since Legion was Haste. One freak accident patch that could very easily get overwritten by the next one and the upcoming or not-upcoming rework is not enough to reteach and retrain MM. And thanks to your research efforts, a measly 5% difference didn’t do jack squat to humiliate my doctrine.
People like Cashmeowside, Durostar, and myself demonstrate the ultimate power that is MM, the same that people like you complain about. You don’t want to drink the koolaid? That’s all the same to us, but we know we make our mark on people. Go reroll to a more honest RDPS or do something else. I never tried to get more people on in the wrong ways. But what I find is that instead of actually playing MM as intended, they’d rather complain. They’re the ones ruining MY spec. I don’t buy their arguments, nor their snake oil.
And what is the community? Who is the community, that I should take pause to fear and respect? Are we talking about these Hello Kitty Island Adventurers that practically killed all WPVP? I’m more than happy to give it to them. But that’s not the reason Blizzard nuked my post, as I doubt any of it had to do with Blizzard themselves.
The MSoft acquisition couldn’t happen soon enough. The forums could definitely use new management.
No cause that was right and good. A witch hunt, no doubt. Some here are just too blinded by anger that they’ll hang anyone. Well, if they’re coming at me like that…
I have been playing this toon as a MM Hunter almost exclusively since the game came out in 2004.
I have no actual alts, only this Hunter. The only “alt” I have is an Evoker that I used my saved boost so I could get the evoker transmog set for my Hunter and to get Tarecgosa because Hunters cant do that chain. I started as Night Elf and then race/faction swapped after I came back from a break I took during WoD because, well, it was WoD.
The only time I havent been MM is when I have been playing around for the lulz on alt runs and such.
Ive been playing MM Hunter longer than some adults have been alive.
So when I say you have no idea what you are talking and are utterly delusional in your fanaticism I am saying that from nearly 2 decades of experience.
The fact you bang on about “my spec” and other people being “snake oil salesman” and how we are “ruining your spec” and that you genuinely wish bad on the entire Hunter community because they disagreed with you and backed it up (to the point you dirty deleted the whole thing) is an actually disordered level of narcissism.
And I get that whatever is wrong with you prevents you from acknowledging any situation where you arent the god of correctness and holy keeper of the one true knowledge but just try to pretend for a second that you arent a victimised secret genius with a magical knowledge everyone is scared to accept and instead just accept that you had an idea, it was wrong, move on like a functioning adult.
I want Wind Arrows builds based around Wailing Arrow to be a thing - but theyre objectively bad so I accepted that reality and moved on. Please do us all a favour and try it out for yourself (moving on that is not wailing arrow builds).
I was a Marksman in Hellgate: London since 2008. First time I was a MM in anything, so that goes far back enough.
Then I’ve played Warlock longer than some adults have been alive. And you know what’s funny is that the class has never been more EZ mode than ever before. I grew out of it, but I know it’s still solid and legit. I came to Hunter because I wanted something HARDER to play.
You mean like 5 years of experience times 4? I’m not so sure it keeps adding up to 20 when Hunter history is divided either by pre-Legion or post-Legion, or by xpac trilogies. I’m practically capped at six years for Hunter, and that’s only because there’s no WPvP. It’s like there’s power, but there’s no transmission of power.
I can’t go any farther in the class than I already have, but I am…“going back in time” for that purpose. Sometimes the only way forward is back.
You didn’t do a good job helping me about them, so there’s that. I have to wish bad because the EASY WAY was to LISTEN TO ME. The HARD WAY is NOT getting raid/M+ invites, and maybe a swift /gkick if you complain. Now especially with Augs, all this talk about optimizing MM dps by stacking Crit/Haste is not going to get MM up ahead. And that does go beyond damage alone(despite that’s all we even have).
That’s news to me that there’s disordered level of narcissism. So I guess that means there’s an ordered level. So you can either be a narcissist of order or a narcissist of chaos, is what it seems like you’re telling me. So I guess you’re of Order and I’m of Chaos?
I actually prefer being Neutral between Law and Chaos…
Fear is probably the strongest emotion I picked up the whole time. It’s much safer and more comfortable to believe in a good lie than to face the inconvenient truth.
“People are stupid. They will believe a lie because they want to believe it’s true, or because they are afraid it might be true.” --Terry Goodkind
I’m just as skeptical to hear it from the leading top parsers because they could be Gucci handbags for all I know, that they’re not really pulling their own weight as what would be desired of.
That you might not be the best MM in the business, but you have the best of other people in other class businesses, or simply the best of the best in general. The privileged people, like Woodsy and Bepples. That the GUILD in question overshadows a great many personal shortcomings. I wouldn’t know anything about that part doing my own thing…
That people will carry you to BiS and then you reach nirvana, while a great many MM Hunters will get hardstuck until they QQ.
But it’s easier to just dismiss it from a non-DF 60. It’s easier to deflect and project that way. It’s easier to dismiss it from someone who doesn’t raid anymore and hasn’t for over 7 years.
Yet at the same time, Blizzard continues to ignore us all.
In 10.0, Windies were complete garbo, but all of a sudden they’re the rave. That sounds great, but you’d think it would have started out that way if it was so good. But with the rework that is coming dead last or not at all, it may or may not stay. Who knows? We lost Double Tap; that was a VERY POPULAR POWER COOLDOWN. So just because it’s well liked doesn’t mean it’s here to stay…
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Trying to decide if I’m more sick of the RSV QQ posts or the unhinged, pathological narcissist’s copium. Regardless, SV is a ton of fun, so I hope any rework doesn’t touch it too much.
Hahahahahahaha you think other games mean anything.
Cool story this is the Hunter forum not the warlock forum.
Please go ask anyone in charge of raiding anywhere if they recommend speccing for less damage. Because thats literally what youre saying. “If you want to do more damage you need to spec for less damage”. This is about as intelligent as “If you slow down you’ll go faster” or “Filling up this jug makes it empty” or “If you earn more money you’ll have less money”. We are a damage only class with no utility beyond that. Speccing for anything else is idiotic.
A perfect example of the pseudo intellectual nonsense I was talking about.
The irony here is so absolutely overwhelming you HAVE to be a troll. Nobody can genuinely be this lacking in self awareness.
Its easy to dismiss because its wrong.
For the love of god at least try to understand what scaling is and how maths work, come on.
Well, that game had Evokers and Summoners, and I was already a Warlock main for a few years. Maybe I didn’t want to play a spellcaster in a Flagship Studios(Blizz North) game. I threw that one out for the foreboding thing.
See, you didn’t even know what I was talking about. You go from insulting me to posting nonsensical crap like this? If you didn’t know what was wrong about Wind Arrows in 10.0, then why should I take you seriously? Making Wind Arrows guaranteed from each AShot and scaling better from AShot damage should have gone live in 10.0 but it would take a small indie company longer to get around to it.
In 10.0 nobody took that leg of the talent tree, and that would have meant that the stat priority was still more of what I’ve said. Interestingly enough from the last tier, CRIT was more important. Critting on Arcs and Multis made AShot cast 50% faster and putting on an additional 20% dmg bleed. (Where the heck were you when this was going on, since you seem to talk about veterancy?) A 50% faster AShot is nothing you can do with stacked Haste. And what makes AShot hit hard and crit even harder? Duh: Mastery and Versatility.
You act as if one patch completely brainwashed you. I took notice and noted that it was a significant change. But my mind doesn’t just change in a snap.
From the last tier set, having crit supplement the haste particularly for a hardcast ability wasn’t a bad idea. That was like getting 4 for the price of 2 or 3. So the history supports my argument more, that Haste has always been the crutch. I don’t see why that philosophy would change, especially for the long term. Blizzard was trying to get the spec AWAY from high Haste builds the past several years, for good reason: MM does too much damage already, “too much” being the general community’s take.
All the same, I’m convinced I don’t need to change how I would gear up. Withstanding the tier sets, if I go for Msty/Vers as much as I can before BiS, I can hold my own and bring home the bacon just like all the good MMs are doing right now, what sparse bacon there is to win and all…
So I guess talking a bit more in-depth about 10.0 did the trick? Obviously I didn’t have a 70 back then either, but I was around and was even a little active in the class/spec discussions. I didn’t get so much flak like this back then, but then again, this has been the most active I’ve been in a while…
Mainly because I was starting up Classic. I’m moving forwards by moving backwards for now…
I apologize. When I said “good”, I did not mean the ivory towered top parsers. I meant everyday MMs getting their grind on every week.
Ah, you mean the one where Hunters are at the very bottom? *And by the way, you know I’m just a player, right? I’m not an open beta tester. Let me know when the real DF version goes live. It hasn’t even been a full year yet since they released full open beta.
You say please, but I know that’s not what you’re really asking.
“Please be like me because I’ve done way more than you. I actually played and accomplished the things that matter to the community as determined by Blizzard. Worship the ground I walk on because there’s no better MM than me. I know not one, but maybe one or two. And then I may grant you license to say as you like. You’re choosing to make a clown out of yourself, but if you follow me and do what I say, I’ll make you a star. You’ll actually be liked and respected. People will stop laughing at you.”
And not ONE TIME did I EVER ask or tell this. Your fantasy seems to hinge on social power rather than gamer power. Get a stream going and get a fanbase if you haven’t, my dude, and satisfy that. Plenty have since the early Call of Duty days. By the way, I don’t even have that. I’m old, old-fashioned, and old-school. That’s the difference between you and me.
I seem to have the guts to say what you don’t want to say about yourself. You didn’t want to say what you were really thinking? That’s okay: I got you, fam. Because obviously you didn’t want neutral ground. Your way or the highway. No live and let live.