Rogue question

Is riposte needed? I’m following a leveling guide and it says to take riposte but it procs very rarely. Figured points were best spent elsewhere.

Also where do I quest after Ghostlands? I’m level 21 and was thinking Tauren mill but not sure where to go. New to the Horde. Thanks in advance.

if you achieve parry, i would use it

It’s spelt rouge.

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I went tarren mill after ghost lands just a couple days ago. Mobs are a bit high but you’ll level up quick.

Ripsote is prolly the best damage to energy ratio.

10 energy for 150% weapon damage and it disarms them.

SS is 40 energy for 100% weapon damage +x

I used to be a hater of it way back in the day when I barely played rogue and thought the build seemed dumb because you were sacrificing talents on parry to get a proc based ability.

But…then you play it and you realize how good combat is for leveling in general and riposte is just a perk on top of that. As stated earlier the main reason it’s so good is low energy to damage on top of disarming, but also going down the combat tree fully before going elsewhere is the typical play so if you choose to dump those 6 points elsewhere in combat you pick up mediocre talents that offer no damage (things like imp sprint and evasion IIRC). Once you hit 30 you get access to blade flurry and at 40 adrenaline rush; even if riposte was bad you wouldn’t want to delay getting those by dumping the 6 combo points elsewhere first because those CDs are basically cheat codes.

Make sure you make a WA for the proc or put it in a spot you can see when it procs. After you use it for a bit you’ll realize it’s pretty good. When you hit 70 and do a typical combat build for dung/raids you do drop it though.

Riposte is valuable for leveling because leveling is about more than just doing maximum target dummy damage.

Riposte is amazing for leveling and useless for raiding.

Riposte is one of the best abilities in the game while leveling. It hits quite hard, only costs 10 energy, and disarms the target. Naturally, you wont always have it proc, but once per mob is decently common.

Just make sure you’re not trying to fight mobs at or above your level. The leveling speed for melee increases dramatically if you’re fighting green mobs. You will hit and crit more often, thus reducing kill times and damage taken. You will also dodge and parry more which reduces downtime and the increased parry frequency gives you more riposte procs.

Riposte will proc more later on. You seem to be in BE start land still. Later on mobs hit more, and you can take on more mobs so it will proc more often. It’s a nice skill really.

For post 21 start story quest you get options to quest on. Your breadcrumbs quests will lead you to tauren mills or ashenvale.

Or you can go off script and start to head south pastcross roads towards thunderbluff region till you find the level 20 supported areas. Its not mattering how you do this. You will do your death marches for flight points and such to all regions eventually lol.

For mob/quest density though, I’d say go help the undead in tauren mills.

could of edited other post but nah.

Since a horde rogue new to this…when you do poison quest and fail at it don’t feel bad. Its not a fun quest.

Find and bring some friends or over level and gear it solo. I am not sure about tbc balancing. I did this on my undead rogue in anniv 1-60. The boss goblin sucks massively. I just AH’d poisons and went there few levels over leveled in time.

Its a long walk every fail. Eventually I got smart and went back when I couldn’t fail lol. Alliance rogues its basically a walk in, grr alliance bias lol.

While this is generally good advice rogues, especially human, are very good at fighting mobs at or above their level compared to other specs; combat is just kind of a stacked talent tree. You got riposte being strong offensively and defensive on top of increasing more parries from the prereq talent, the hit chance talent being a rare/early/easily accessible talent, and the OH damage talent doesn’t hurt either. Then further down you have weapon expertise that gives more weapon skill in Vanilla and expertise in TBC. If you’re human the racial is kind of just gravy. Yes, green mobs will die faster because obviously, but it’s not a stark difference like it is for a class like a warrior.

The insane thing about combat is there’s virtually nothing you’re picking up that’s a waste of talents like some specs suffer from where you’re waiting to get to the next row where the good stuff is. The closest is the parry talent to get riposte and improved gouge; both of which are still pretty useful for your own survivability.

Thanks for all the replies. I’m in Tauren Mill and doing just fine. Mobs are a bit high but I still cut them down. Thanks again!