Rogue/Mage won both the EU and the NA AWC

Oh snap you’re right, dang. I play holy I didn’t even notice lol.

Well, same question still tho. How short can HOJ’s cd be with that do you reckon?

Probably not that short. 2 seconds per Holy Power isn’t that great, and it’s a 1 minute CD baseline.

Holy Word: Chastise is 1 minute CD, but you can shoot out another one every 3-4 Smites when you’re using Apotheosis.

yea its around 30 seoncds 25 seconds if you have uptime which ret doesn’t. just tested.

remove assass gpie and manaslurp from the game and buff ret ty

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ok buddy lets calm down

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So you are mad that a rogue held down a person while a firemage globaled them?

Globalling people makes for high twitch viewership, even if it isn’t fun to play with. So get used to it?

It feels toxic cuz of sin rogue and hpal along with gpy to top it off

Bring back sub frost disc. Hard counters sin rogues

BoP hard counters sin rogues.
BoP clears vendetta, wound, crip, garrote, creeping, and rupture off the target.

Poisons are counted as magic it doesn’t remove them if I’m not mistaken. I know what counters sin tho I play it at high levels even tho I hate it. Hpal isn’t enough to shut down sin though. Sub frost disc controls the entire game and makes a sin rogue feel worthless. If you want sin rtard rmpalas gone that’s the easiest way to do it without nerfing the specs to the dirt

Assa fire rmpal and Assa frost RMD are more PvE then traditional RM.

RIP the old sub frost RMPriest. F’s in the chat.

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In Legion, although assa felt similar in a RMPala comp, the other two specs were very viable which was what in my opinion made rogues super fun to play. Comps like sub/frost, sub/boomy, sub/surv, and sub/sp actually existed and were capable of being tier 1. In BFA, assa overshadows the other two specs greatly due to their lack of viability.

F 10 char required

Rogue/Mage won both the EU upper bracket and the lower bracket yesterday, let’s see how the NA cup goes today and what the outcome for the EU & NA top 4 finals tomorrow will look like, but I mean I think it’s already decided xd balanced comp guys!!1

You can still beat mages into the dirt if you wait to commit until they’re out of blinks and db and temp and sac and iron bark and either you have kick or they don’t have sheep Dr available and you don’t get kidneyed on it… But ww is an outlyingly frequent burster, and even we struggle to actually force all those things and then still have damage in their very brief absence. Can’t imagine what it’s like as other specs.

thats what happens when every kidney is a guaranteed cd or kill regardless if the mage does any damage in it or not LOL

yes a 5 minute cooldown totally destroys a 2 min cd

what do u do next vendetta???

help i lost to rmpala using this guide any more tips o nicholasfury, of eldrethalas, master of countering rogues

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press your second bop
or ultimate sac
or partner cooldown
4head

toxic blade internal bleeding are the biggest issues

rogue just has retwings and passive crypt fever every kidney for 0 reason

i qd into an rmpal last night that won in 4 goes, the rogue envenomed 2 times

2 envenoms in 4 goes

melee > internal bleeding > rupture > CoS legs were all tied up in damage

nice game LMAO

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Big autos, god of never losing his front 180 on target
Pikaboo fishing for step kicks is jealous

Even if the sub/frost variant is overtuned I still feel better losing to control than damage