So I’m planning on leveling as rogue with my wife as she plays warrior. Tempted to level dagger spec so that I’m not competing with the swords. I’m wondering how drastically better sword leveling spec is compared to dagger. I’m also wanting to dive into pvp as I’m leveling all throughout so I was debating just running with a good dagger pvp build. Thoughts?
Rogues level up based on gear not specs. Whatever your best weapon is…is what you level with. You might go dagger to 20. …get wingblade then the one from bfd then the sword from sm…to get you to higher levles…then get a good dager and switch to that-say a barmen shanker
One you hit 60 then you can pick a spec…but thats going to be gear as well…perditions blade…go dagger. chromatically tempered sword…go sword
ITs very simple
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Is frontstabbing a thing in classic still?
It never was a thing on an official Blizzard server. It was/is a private server thing that will not be in Classic.
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Hey,
My brother and I are doing the same thing, him leveling warrior and me Rogue
I was planning on playing combat until I could get Hemo then switch over to sub because we like to PvP a bunch while leveling. IDK if that helps but it cant make a huge difference sword spec vs hemo spec… I mean all in all a couple hrs by the time u hit max level. Ill spend that much time in stealth ganking anyways or jumping to get ontop of building / mailboxes haha
Thats our mindset at leastg
No that’s pservers only. If it ever was a thing blizzard planned to fix it. Assume it won’t be in classic. There are plenty of quest swords as you level up. The bfd one is horde only. There’s one from the sm quest in desolace and you get thrash blade from a mara quest. You get mirahs song from a quest in scholo. You probably won’t get mirahs till 60 though. Mostly use whatever you have that is better.
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Doesnt matter on weapon. What matters is you level as combat for the Riposte since you will be face tanking and parrying all mobs. Also, some have said that front stabbing is not a thing in classic, making assassination not the most optimal spec.
TLDR: Go any weapon, make sure you level as combat though.
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Level as combat swords if you can, but mainly combat whatever the best weapon you can get in your main hand. Your wife will be wanting big 2h weapons so no conflict there.
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Pick a spec like Combat or Subtlety and stick with it for as long as you can. Re-speccing in Classic WoW is going to be expensive early on.
Pick a spec to build and really try to stick with it until you can afford swapping in and out of specs for raids/pvp/leveling.
There is a point in the Combat tree where you can focus on swords, daggers, or maces but if you go human, I tend to stick with swords just to take advantage of the racial.
In the end it’s up to you - but really try to commit to a spec early on and stay away from the respec trainer if you can.
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Combat was always easier for me since it’s not positional, needing to be behind the target for a lot of it’s damage. if your warrior partner is keeping aggro and your not splitting mobs daggers could work too as you could get behind them reliably.
I agree with Dopeyone… I have leveled multiple rogues 1-60 in vanilla, tbc, and wrath… I would waffle back and forth with specs, but the real difference maker was always how good my weapons were. Toxic Revenger is a great free dagger you can get in Gnomer - I think level 27. Go with a friend and 2 man farm it as soon as you can get it. Ambush spec, gouge and backstab works just fine
If you have someone to level with going daggers is fine. The main reason swords are better for leveling is because they don’t require any positioning and openers aren’t super important.
Leveling with daggers is awful.
Don’t worry about taking weapons from your wife while leveling. For one - most warriors level with 2H weapons anyways.
Secondly, there are plenty of good 1h swords as quest rewards so there isn’t much competition even if she does prot or dual wield fury. Though it’s a shame Maraudon isn’t in at the start, so no Thrash Blade.
Here’s the thing…
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You aren’t competing for weapons at all, because your warrior wife shouldn’t be using a 1hander for anything but dungeon tanking, while leveling. Give her a 2h, and she should only be using a 1h to keep the weapon skill high enough to run a dungeon with.
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Daggers are way worse than swords while leveling… It somewhat evens out with face stabbing (or the warrior tanking), but still, you’re just better off going down the combat tree… The hit talent alone will be super useful for your purposes.
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Getting new daggers is actually kind of a big deal… and requires dungeon running constantly… It’s simply way easier to gear up combat, particularly before sword spec (which you can also avoid to at least 41 by jumping to assassination for Malice, remorseless attacks, and imp slice and dice if you really don’t want to lock yourself into swords yet)
I’ve leveled tons of rogues. My go-to leveling spec is…
Get +5 hit in combat. Get imp sprint if on pvp server.
Get +10 stealth talents in sub if on pvp server.
Beeline for cold blood in assassination.
Use w/e for weapons.
Good balance between damage, QoL stealth speed/detection, and imp sprint will save your life all day every day. Leveling without +5 hit is horrible. If nothing else, get that.
If you’re constantly questing with someone else, you won’t be gimped with your spec. Combat is the leveling spec because it allows you to solo content much easier/efficiently.
With a leveling buddy, you’re more free to spec any way you’d like and suffer the ramifications of not speccing combat.