It is just me or is it weird that rogues have so many tools AND now they actually have some decent healing. Their toolkit just seems a bit bloated. Maybe it’s because I’m playing SV and my health sustain seems low haha.
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Sub has had pretty good self-healing for a long time.
Sin still does not.
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Because it is. Rogues are in an insane place toolkit wise and also have too many safety nets when it comes to how they play their class now. The fact you can aggro vanish so much is insane. Not to mention a rogue can stay up without a healer for far longer than they should be able to.
It shouldn’t.
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remember when pure damage dealing specs didn’t have self-healing, and had to get resets and bandage/eat?
now they have more than damn hybrids.
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I’m so salty about the recent Rogue buffs that I’m denying them dungeon drops I don’t need. They can crawl through 40 miles of busted glass for all I care, delete the class.
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I just wish they deleted the 50 safety nets. If a rogue aggro vanishes for a kill against me he should be able to get punished for it if he doesn’t kill but realistically that’s never the case because they’ve got tons of answers to anything.
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It just pisses me off that they have e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g. Can shut down an entire team literally by themselves, bombs, duels, tons of escape/nulling, lots of speed, and their self healing is even stupid. Like where’s the downside?
I agree, if they’re going to be given all this stuff they should incur heavy penalty from failing to capitalize on something. The amount of Mage/Rogue teams I’ve seem fumble around, poorly executing, and using their stupid kits to give them chance after chance to win a match… (and if that wasn’t enough, Blizzard gave them an auto win trinket that was hitting like an Evoker one shot at one point, then was still super strong there after lol).
Literal scumbag players.
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The only downside to rogue is the one that exist between the keyboard and chair for rogue players.
It’s insane. RMP honesty needs something like comp specific nerfs. For example poly works normally if a mage is with any other class but que with a rogue and poly is half the duration or whatever. Anything to actually get it in line with everything else so it’s not the most free thing ever.
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there should not be any spell that heal roges ever it just promoted long boring gameplay since they can restart the fight full health every time they want
Honestly RMX would be a lot less toxic if rogue was punishable. Remove their self healing and feint damage reduction entirely. The guy wants to shove himself into a melee cleave and aggro vanish? Good now he dies. Shadow step shouldn’t work on friendly targets.
Mage shields have taken a hit so it’s not as bad, but just make it so rogues have to use their brain instead of being one of the penultimate melee.
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Yeah that’d be good. Both specs need to be glass cannons again but rogue especially needs to just die if they don’t trade correctly.
I’m really okay with them having ridiculous damage and control, as long as they’re paper thin unless played well.
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It already got a 66% nerf. 
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In dragonflight, sub rogues have to pick between the two in their go rotation due to the CC reduction changes. You either hold the target still OR you do damage, not both (If you try, there’s gaps in your cheapshots so they can pop walls, stun, etc)
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Great then. Hopefully it stays that way.
It probably will.
Most of the big private servers have a PvP duration reduction aura of 10 to 20% and it makes the game far more enjoyable.
Blizzard probably let’s private servers test ideas and just takes whatever the best ideas are. It’s smart.
Don’t get Amatox’s hope up that they’ll implement things from Ascension
Well… they won’t go THAT far, but Ascension DID have hunters taming dragons before it was even a thing on dragonflight lol.
It also took them, what, 3 weeks to make solo shuffle?
step having 2 charges and allowed to use on friendly targets (+ the range on it) is lowkey very broken and a big reason why sub is so toxic
Step just needed one charge, hostile only, and it would’ve made rogue a lot less toxic.