Anyone else having trouble dealing with sub rogues? I am absolutely getting melted if they catch me first, I can’t survive the opener (even in bear). Anyone have any helpful tips?
Last I checked this isn’t a Feral specific problem. Everyone dies instantly to Sub Rogue. It’s a tuning issue.
The smart@$$ answer? You and everyone else buddy.
Real talk? Yeah I mean, with their legendary granting 100% crit during and for 4s after stealth, their abilities boosting everything including their Kyrian ability, and the nature of their kit, you’re bound to have issues. You basically have to be fast and immediately trinket/wall and if you can, stun them. As a boomy, once I see them commit cds, I trinket+incap roar. If they don’t trinket, that gives me time to thorns and prepare. If I took damage I can frenzy regen, ironfur, etc. I would not pop skin in this scenario because I’m hoping they don’t continue to hit me. If they do or stun after, sure I’ll skin maybe but their crit is likely gone. I then still have renewal and bash/warstomp to help mitigate further things. Once a rogue doesn’t have a trinket you can help yourself. They almost always trinket my incap but that means I can immediately stun and clone so… yeah.
As feral I understand you usually take resto affinity so, I’d trinket their opener, wall, and immediately bash them. That’ll at least get their trinket too. You may then get stunned again but at least you’ll be in bear and have wall up. No way they kill you through that.
Unfortunately the way their damage is, if they were to theoretically pop evasion and cloak, you wouldn’t be able to peel them off of you. Best case you just trinket wall. I’ve actually yet to let myself get memed by them but that’s not to say they aren’t a problem.
Wait until you fight sub/mm in 2’s and you get double tap aimed shot from stealth, and the rogue immediately duels your after. Good luck.
Barkskin or Trinket their cheap shot. I’m feral with guardian affinity and Oath of the Elder Druid, so a double frenzied regen is basically a full heal. I’ll anticipate their burst in their opener and just go bear with 10secs of elder druid and heal up. Then I’ll War Stomp -> Cyclone and try to reset.
It’s when they trinket that and burn every CD like cloak to avoid roots / cyclone or evasion to make bashing them impossible that it becomes an issue. Their burst isn’t limited to the first 10 seconds of a fight, but it seems to be strong for ~30 seconds. What I’d probably just do is disengage completely. Travel Form wild charge away, then sprint, stampeding roar, night fae form, etc. You should have more mobility than them. After that, try to reset the fight.