Why do modern gamers insist on buying their way to boredom as fast as possible? Do you think it’s just the modern condition of not finding value in the process but only in the end result? While I have no animosity towards foreign players in countries with ridiculous inflation finding ways to survive in that environment, I do question what I see as a mental condition in many of today’s gamers, especially the younger players. Is it the influence.of mobile games or just a general ignorance/apathy of what provides lasting enjoyment? I know people enjoy things differently, but I listen to people who have rushed to the end/to gear, and they seem fairly miserable.
Thoughts?
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It’s a variety of things, but the two I can think of the most that has adversely impacted WoW in some ways is reflected by the changes to it. Specifically the lack of World in World of Warcraft and no real reason to be in it.
In retail, there’s no real reason to want to be in the world, even at end level. The primary focus is centered on the end game, which isn’t new, but, like in Classic, you had more player driven things that were feasible, such as TM vs SS battles or, more recently, Hardcore.
Classic is an RPG whereas Retail is ESports. Fundamentally different demographics.
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You have Lit a Lot of things to do Open world in retail but just in the current expansión map Where the people is.
The feeling is not the same because retail is like x10 the speed vs classic but def a Lot of things to do and Discover.
And then we have wotlk Where you only raid log and sit on dalaran.
There has always been people doing MRT, even gabe used to farm and sell gold in wow lol.
There isnt a super reasoning behind it, most people whom do it will do so just to show they can. Its kinda of a flex.
The issue is when the company allows you to go from gold/hour to dollar/hour, eleminating all possible risks, as low as they may be.
For the same reasons that gamers of every generation always have, I’d imagine.
If they can find ways to make it easier for themselves, they will.
Not a true statement.
Original “old school” mmorpg’s did not have gold buying.
Vanilla wow didn’t until late TBC.
Daoc didn’t until later on.
EverQuest didn’t until later on when people just started buying armor.
Good buying ruins the game. It’s that simple.
I’m not saying people can’t buy gold if they want.
I’m not saying they can’t buy gold tokens.
But to play dumb and act like it has no impact on the game shows how clueless you, and those who believe like you , are when it comes to how MMO’s should be played if managed properly.
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Are you directing this at me?
I don’t think gold buying is good or healthy for the game, nor did I state anywhere that it has no impact on the game.
I dislike the WoW Token, but I wouldn’t even humor the idea that gold buying is now a thing thanks to the WoW Token.
I did ,
And I reread your statement. I may have overreacted a bit.
I’m sensitive on tokens right now.
My bad
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Well, to be fair, it’s a touchy issue, and I don’t blame you. I replied to a bunch of threads on it and sort of saw that I came to the realization (or rationalization) that gold buying has been around in such abundance that adding the WoW Token may not have much of an impact.
Who knows though.
I guess we’ll see!
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Unless Blizz hardcore starts to put the boot to the throat of gold sellers and selling sites - this does nothing. People are still going to buy from them as they offer more for cheaper.
No love for the actual game. Same thing observed in players that Transfer off their native realm and GDKP trash.
I’m cutting some slack to those leaving BsB to escape the nonsense.
Agreed.
The version of the game currently in Dragonflight is proof of that.
Hate to be pointing the finger at giving in to whales but Blizzard appears to have done so and this sure isn’t to make a dent in the bot population and their gold selling sites.
Again disappointing.
Limited time more than anything.
You’re making good money at your job and have a lot of disposable income. But not a lot of free time.
Wow is extremely time consuming. Why would someone farm x gold per hour when they can buy thousands in a matter of minutes.
LOL did you even play?
It was the wild west. I sold gold, I sold items, I sold fully raid equipped characters for thousands of dollars, and I was just a guy. Ebay had a whole section dedicated to selling gold and characters.
People have been doing it for as long as there have been online games.
Wait, you think people werent buying gold in vanilla wow?
People just fall into the pit of thinking it’s the easy/efficient way (it is) as well as the usual “everybody else is doing it” and kind of convince themselves that it’s okay despite contributing to the problem.
The worst bit is the cognitive dissonance where you have people buying gold trying to shame other people buying gold because they think their situation is justified despite being against the rules.
Oh, well. We all knew how this would go down.
Look at games with loot boxes.
I never understand why players spend hundred and thousands of dollars on these fast powerups - but they exist.
I guess for some people they find this fun.
I wouldn’t say thing buying their way to boredom, nor is it a mental condition. They see end-game differently from you… not everyone wants to play the game the way YOU DO. If someone doesn’t like leveling? Maybe they’ll buy a mage boost. Do care about PVE but want to PVP? Buy raid carries. That’s their right to do with as they please.
I just think you care too much about what others do.
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Its disingenuous to aim this at the younger generation. I’ve been in online games for decades and it has always been around. Classic had plenty of grown adults buying gold. In fact, I’d argue the younger generation are in lobby games like Battle Royale or MOBA, and are even less of the buyer audience than the older generation.
The truth is, there have always been cheaters. An MMO game being a persistent world just means those cheaters hurt the average player more. I’ve always been an open-world farmer. I love collecting herbs and ore. Trust me, those bots have been hurting me ever since 2005. It’s not a modern gamer problem, it’s a gamer problem.
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The real reason behind most gold buying, is because it goes unpunished by a few people, and then everyone feels compelled to engage in it too or else they will be at a disadvantage. The majority of people who buy gold are people who wouldn’t otherwise if it was strictly punished and actually risked their account, and they see their friends who are open about buying gold actually get banned.