RIP WoW 2004-2021

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Since the day I started WoW I was hooked. I used to look forward to logging in and playing with friends and guildies but due to blizzards changes to how players play the game the social aspect of WoW has slowly but surely died. As a result of this it’s spawned the toxic dogsht community that is WoW now where the only reason people talk to each other now is to get into a mythic+ group or to flame each other for some stupid reason like their xmogs looks bad or something. It’s as if the "I don’t give a sht" mentality of blizzard has rubbed off on the community. WoW just isnt fun anymore… blizzard stopped listening to the community that actually played the game and opted to listen to all the new players over the last couple years who whined and complained that the game was too hard. Don’t believe me? Look at TBC classic… Blizzard added boosts- which did NOT exist at the time. Don’t get me wrong, boosts are nice for people who work a lot and can’t dedicate the time to leveling alts but for those who use a boost on their main characters when they buy the game it ruins their entire experience. Which in turn ruins the community. Raid finder is a perfect testament to this and the detriment of blizzards poor game decisions. The recent accusations against blizzard and the lawsuits to follow are merely fuel to the dumpster fire that is Activison-Blizzard. The recent scandals only solidify that blizzard doesn’t give a damn about it’s employees (you know… the people that MAKE THE GAMES that blizzard profits from… yeah those people) so why would they care about the player base? Players have only been becoming more and more fed up as their comments, suggestions, and feedback all fall on deaf ears. Do you remember the cinematic where Sylvannas destroyed the Helm of Domination? Yea you probably do right? Good because that cinematic sums up the relationship between blizzard and their subscribers. We, the players are Bolvar… watching helplessly as Blizzard (Sylvannas) shatters our game in pieces.

Hopefully someone with a say in Blizzard will come to their senses and realize that there is no money to be made when your player base is unsubscribing at an alarming rate. I’ve loved and still love Warcraft but I just can’t justify giving you my money anymore when all you do is make poor decisions with it and hire absolute idiots to manage your brands. To quote Kael’Thas “Nothing of my homeland remains, but ash and sorrow” This is how I think a lot of people feel about WoW right now.

You can rebuild that homeland, Blizzard. I know you can. You just need to realize that it’s gone first.

-Burks

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Blizzard doesn’t come to the new player forum for feedback. This is 100% player to player with no monitoring from blues. You’ll want to post this in General Discussion in order for anyone from blizz to see it.

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… and if you no longer can post in General due to expired sub, you can still login to the game on a character level 20 or lower and post feedback under the help menu.

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Yeah i hear ya, i use to love this game too. Everything seem to be going down hills. I can see that some players arent happy, going around harassing others for no reasons.

Its a weird world out there now. I though about jumping into Classic, but its limited what you can do in there. Idk i just didnt like what Blizz did to the game, it like leveling way too fast, level cap push down by half, too much rewards and gold drops. Most of them dont even use the professions to craft their own gears, etc. It doesnt feel right.

I think most players have left, finding something else to do. Since there so many games coming out everyday on Steam.

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If you don’t like the game then feel free to uninstall.

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I do have fun playing this game. I just wish someone would give me a hint at just how to put a rotation together. For some reason I look at my spell book and my IQ falls through the floor because I don’t understand what I’m even looking at.

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Icy-veins.com has guides that cover both single target and multi target rotations for each class and spec.

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I love borscht!
(i really don’t, though) :robot:

Jokes aside, I don’t see how cash shop or boosts are a problem. I spent 30$ on mounts in FF XIV (which everyone praises nowadays) and I don’t think mounts are even worth it. They’re fun for an hour or two, then they become mundane and you start thinking “what other mount do I want now…”.

The problem of WoW and why people are leaving is because the game is simply outdated. It doesn’t need Classic, it does not need a new suit to say “I’m so sorry” and fix some issues.
FF XIV just happened to have the same sense of wonder and discovery that WoW used to have, with a slightly better gameplay and just about everything. Even the story isn’t as great as people say (I played ARR and just finished Heavensward). Maybe the next expansions are better… FF XIV managed to get the best out of WoW and modernise it. Imagine if WoW 2 came out and took the MMORPG as far ahead as WoW 1 did in 2004.

They need to make World of Warcraft 2 with a cohesive story that would have a beginning, ending and quests that aren’t just “go there, kill that”, with dungeons that will require thinking, cooperation and at least some skill… or make casual dungeons super easy and “hard/extreme” dungeons that require skill (like FF XIV), more customization and perhaps even a soft remake of WoW original story but with better storytelling and please, no awful-looking cutscenes that look worse than a cheap eroge.

It’s just mind-boggling to me that they have all these pieces of lore laying around and nobody bothers enough to make an actual story. I look at all the cards at Hearthstone, all the visuals in WoW and all of that seems exciting… but there’s nothing underneath those visuals, other than bring-a-thon, kill-a-thon quests. Maybe the original WoW was meant to be like this and have you make the story for yourself… but it simply doesn’t work anymore, and it’s not like you can’t have both (personal story + an actual story).
All the WoW books, all the fanfics… Hire someone and have them write a fun story, is it that difficult?? You have these cinematics, you can make well-directed scenes on the engine and probably even better than FF XIV can, you can make great voice-acting (and this comes from someone who tends to hate English voice-acting in cartoons/fantasy) … so what’s the issue?

A lot of the things in WoW are still holding up very well, and FF XIV is not that far ahead. But the things that don’t hold up ruin it. The dungeons in FF XIV aren’t all that different from WoW and the gameplay is really the same: just do your rotation of spells and watch MP. But you know why I’d rather spend time on FF XIV? Because dungeons isn’t all there is to it.
Gathering and crafting isn’t just about right-clicking stuff, it almost feels like an entirely different game. Treasure-hunting, fishing, trade card and casino events, new year and other holiday decorations, items and events… all of it feels modern and not like something out of 2004. And that’s the issue, WoW is turning 18 next year and the game simply didn’t have the budget to evolve itself enough.

If WoW 2 was to take its gameplay to a new level, make enemies unique and require some thinking rather than spamming whatever spells you can and if dungeons wouldn’t be all about rushing through to get that XP… it’d all be different.

The subscriptions still make them enough profit, I imagine, so for as long as that remains, they’ll keep WoW on life-support.

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Other games aren’t an issue… for me, at least. I usually play one game that has an ending and an MMORPG or something like Hearthstone. It can be pretty sad to constantly get detached from the world of the game, so MMORPG with “no end” help with that.

I’m playing Kingdom Hearts II now and I know I’ll feel sad when it’s over. Roxas’ bit was only the prologue and I’m still mad I don’t see him again ._.

Speaking of… it would be nice if MMORPG allowed you to hire characters you like as companions and then have them participate in the story.

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I started in Beta phase 3, then 12:20 midnight after buying it at 12:01 AM the night/morning of release day.

I guess I’ve always enjoyed the game, mostly starting with “Mists of Pandaria”, because I started to play it as a solo game.

Mists was when, near the end, they gave a way to get “good gear”; really good gear from soloing, anyway. Then the successive expansions did something similar.

Some of the most fun I’ve had, in all of my Wow playing, was gearing up on the solo content from Legion and then the crazy BFA “Visions of N’zoth” stuff. It just gave me a lot to do.

I’m at the point now where I think of other players as “chat people”, or “dungeon dressing.” They also really add to the fun of the Auction House. But I don’t require other players for the content I do, which seems to be a really enjoyable way for me to play the game.

I got soured on Wow back in the day when there was ONLY raiding, to get gear that was good at all. I was in a raid guild and found it to be a horrible experience, with ye olde “Dragon Kill Points” and junk. Then the Island in MOP changed all that.