I wanted to bring attention to the excessive griefing that’s been happening in RFC as it’s been getting out of hand lately. At first it seemed to stem from the character Longsleeve who is still wiping groups as of now but now it appears there’s more copycats participating in griefing groups in RFC, including killing members of my own guild. I’ve reported these griefers dozens of times but it appears blizzard won’t do anything about it which is encouraging the number of griefers to grow. This type of toxic behavior this early in the stages of leveling is driving players away and really alot of damage to the hardcore community.
I’m posting here in the forums now in the hopes that we unify as a community to bring more attention to this situation so that the GMs can look more into it or atleast add in a better feature for reporting griefing.
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Players, and likely more than just one, have to report for Blizzard to catch them, but as far as I know they were actioning people if they could verify intentional grief. Although that was early on in HC’s launch so who knows how diligent they are these days.
Best you can do is to encourage anyone who encounters obvious grief is to report them so Blizzard can establish a pattern and/or intent.
Myself, my guild members and those directly affected by griefers like Longsleeve have reported it multiple times and have been doing so since early December. Him and other griefers have probably killed over 200 people and at what point will Blizzard step in and investigate? We’ve sent multiple clips of them blatantly griefing and nothing is happening. At this point posting it publicly on the forums is the only option I can think of right now.
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I’m not one to defend Blizzard’s ability to police their games; as far as I’m concerned they do a trash job. In fact I think I reported someone while my mage was leveling in the barrens, probably over a week ago at this point, and I only just now logged on to see a thank you for reporting it in my mailbox.
I do know they seemed to be pretty proactive about monitoring griefing early on, even on unofficial HC, but how well they’ve kept up over the years is anyone’s guess.
Could you explain what they’re doing? Just saying griefing doesn’t really explain what to look out for.
Unfortunately this is just common place in hardcore in the earlier dungeons and has been since the first hardcore realms went up.
The problem is that people who are accustomed to behavior that is normal in retail or softcore classic servers start behaving the way they normally would on those realms in hardcore where it is NOT ok.
Some examples include pulling additional packs when not the tank, pulling ahead of the tank, tanks pulling when their healers are OOM, attacking wildly without any regard for threat etc. etc.
Stuff like this isn’t considered griefing on other kinds of servers, but it absolutely is in hardcore where a death from behavior like this means the loss of a character.
People that aren’t fully bought into hardcore etiquette yet tend to get weeded out in these earlier low level dungeons where they are more likely to get killed doing stuff like this.
It becomes less and less of a problem at higher levels where players have a lot more invested in their characters and are thus a lot less likely to behave so recklessly with them. Not saying it doesn’t happen at higher levels sometimes, but it’s FAR less common.
RFC and Wailing Caverns are the worst for this sort of thing on Horde. Deadmines is by far the worst for this on Alliance.
There’s a bridge that goes over lava with troggs lower down that you can range afar from. When the group are ahead fighting, the griefer will pull those enemies. They’ll path and pull with them every add on the way. The party won’t notice, and suddenly a lot of adds will be coming towards them.
They don’t ban streamers for griefing. Now they popularized it. Average players are doing it now. Blizzard doesn’t care.