Revisiting Fargo and Faction Favoritism

Because a bunch of them are probably level 10 alts of her.

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Since Allied races were the only well received feature that’ll be sticking around, maybe the real Battle For Azeroth was the friends we made along the way.

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Are you for real on this comment? Jin had the single best main character questline for Horde in all of BfA, and it was super short, inconclusive, and was gated heavily behind multiple dungeons and raids. He also has one friggen questline in Ardenweald heavily revolving around Bwonsamdi and the Loa. In fact, its his and Bwons participation at all that allows for any inclusivity for the Horde faction in that clearly NE FeyWild Forest inspired zone.

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It’s not all Night Elf posters. Just a handful of Night Elf women. There aren’t any Night Elf men who act that way. I wonder why.

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Well obviousness aside (elves are mainly played as female, rarely as male because of females wanting to look the part or males just want to look at an a** with bouncy bouncy)

You are actually rewarded for not doing the questline as Alliance as you get to keep the flight point.

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I feel this is finnicky ground due to the result. How do we get an overwhelming win? Do we massacre the horde? No, that would make the Horde feel victimized and the Alliance takes the villain card. Do we end it peacefully? No, it makes the Alliance lack spine and repeats the same formula.

I believe the best way to get a BOMBASTIC win. Is to put an end to a notorious fighting zone. Ashenvale is known for the fight between the Horde and Alliance. The Night Elves could successfully eject the horde from Ashenvale and gain 100% control of the land. This victory would allow the Night Elves to retain most of Northern Kalimdor, and perhaps include some phasing.

End result: A magically grown wall of bramble and thick wood closes off Ashenvale from the Barrens, and the bridges between Azhsara and Ashenvale are dismantled. The Horde are ejected from Ashenvale and lament the loss of resources.
(Of course, the Horde will have access through either by alternate pathing like small caverns, or a makeshift bridge made for spywork.)

Warsong Gulch could garner a more lore-friendly purpose for the fighting that it’s the last pocket of conflict where the Horde are trying to gain a foothold in Ashenvale.

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Sigh … and then there is that annoying unresolved issue brought up back when Garrosh might have had a bit of nuance. That “the land we’re stuck on is the land so ruined that even the NEs couldn’t fix it, and thus didn’t want it. Its extremely prone to causing famines”. A topic that was honestly never really addressed beyond Garrosh’s incursion into Ashenvale helped alleviate it (somehow, and even after the territory was taken back). In favor just villain batting the sh*t out of the Faction of starving people.

It boggles the mind why we even keep trying to go into Ashenvale, when taking firmer control over the Tauren ancestral lands of Stonetalon, Desolace, Thousand Needles, and especially Feralas would do a whole lot of good to stabilize the Horde residents of Kalimdor. The Kaldorei don’t have much in the way of holdings in those territories anymore (especially Feralas which is litterally just a single military base). Arable land and fresh water sources being a constant issue they’ve faced. Even Tanaris and Ungoro would be of huge benefit.

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Ashenvale’s forests is plentiful of wood resources, and with trees and foilage comes food as well. The close proximity to Orgrimmar makes it a better target to make claim.

One may also consider Stonetalon, Desolace, and the surrounding territory to Mulgore too far a distance for the trek. Two locations of civilization should be wary of overharvesting their surrounding areas of one or another. If, per say they took Stonetalon, Mulgore would claim first of the supply by nature of its closer location. While Orgrimmar’s needs would have a longer period to wait for.

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You’re not wrong, but hence the crux of the original conflict between the Horde of Kalimdor and the Kaldorei. And trade with them has always been iffy, since even before escalation of tensions with how truly self-sufficient the Kaldorei culture is … the Horde have nothing they want to trade for.

Then you have the fallout from the Wrathgate, which set the tone of “The Alliance gets to decide not only if we get to thrive, but get to survive at all. And can sever that lifeline for any arbitrary reason”. It was this reality that originally settoff Garrosh before all nuance was stripped from his character.

So, there are two options. Either the Horde can focus on zones less dominated by Kaldorei (Stonetalon; Desolace; Faralas; Dustwallow; Thousand Needles; Tanaris; and Ungoro) to try to support the now FIVE different communities they are desperately fostering. Building means of improved transportation (like perhaps a Grimrail line from BHarbor to Gadgetzan) to shorten that distance. Or … we can keep smashing into the Kaldorei.

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Could you degenerates stop trying to shame or debase posters? Its kind of juvenile and disgusting.

They went one step forward, and two steps backs. The Alliance has to throw lives away to do anything, because ‘muh sacrifice.’

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