It’s not a matter of skill issue, I’m not a terrible player, I switch my CDs correctly (+95% of the time), cc to the other healer, etc.
RETs are still pumping, even after last Friday’s nerfs.
As I said, there are the terribad, the average and the good ones, it only takes the average to go at least 3-3 and the good ones always go 5/6-6.
Ret is currently on the same level as all the other S tier melee.
It’s a skill issue if you’re struggling against ret as a DH of all things.
if you think it, you are delusional
below, choose your option, because if you think that DH goes head-to-head with a ret then you are either the terribad or the average one:
As I said, there are the terribad, the average and the good ones, it only takes the average to go at least 3-3 and the good ones always go 5/6-6.
Yeah but it’s ret so it’ll be nerfed again. Maybe it’ll stay A tier but I don’t see them keeping it in game as is.
I also wouldn’t say it’s just S tier. Maybe S++
I’m not saying for them to be nerfed to the ground, LIKE IT WAS WITH DHs, right?
But at least A+ or S level I could be happy, because now they are S++++
If you doubt it, check the forever challenger, that out of nowhere it’s now duelist+ in a matter of days, lmao
Yep think all melee still need plenty of nerfs, but also nerf locks more, ele shams, and hunters. 
That was pre-nerf. You’re actually fried.
Bruuh, just no lmao, im doing some RSS on my hunter and all i see are average rets getting free ratings.
Denial is the first stage of grief
Every ret so far in my shuffle games has gone 5/6 or 6/6. I have a hunter at 2758 and a 2600 hunter. Now my 2600 hunter is 2500 and floating down due to rets. Its the strangest thing that out of no where right after massive ret change buffs that id start going 2/6 every time a rets in the game. Wonder why that is. Hmm any ideas anyone.
Options:
A. I forgot how to play
B. I became a pacifist
C. Ret is still OP
D. Im now old enough to like girls and im to distracted to play good
E. I forgot to eat my vegetables
I’m willing to bet you hit your lifetime high on DH when they were wildly overpowered.
No, as I said, I’m not a terribad player, I’m climbing from average to good, my maximum exp is rival 2. But the interesting thing is as there are rets in every RSS match, I’ve been losing points left and right, things that only happened in some wizzard’s lobbies or against smurfs.
I played in vanilla/BC, stopped and came back in the middle of BFA where I only did PvE and World PvP, in SL I started playing RBG with friends and only started playing rated arena in SL S3 I barely played in S4 for personal reasons. And then im here, a rival 2 player, nice to meet you.
I’ve been playing a ret this week - Katpaws. I had zero experience on ret in arena. This spec is still over tuned and needs some additional damage nerfs. There’s no reason for JV to be hitting for 230-290K in stuns. Killing someone in 3 globals doesn’t make the game better; this applies for all high burst specs.
The community brought this on themselves to a large degree. They begged Blizzard to move away from a gameplay of cd trading for kill windows, which extends games, to very short games with random or timed damage spikes.
If we use solo shuffle as a North Star for the state of pvp, we can easily infer why 3 or 4 specs are the most favored and why queue times are so long. Some specs have ridiculously high burst potential and random damage spikes and healers are miserable trying to heal in this meta.
Until Blizzard moves away from multiple layering of damage modifiers and tones down the burst ability, the pvp portion of WoW will continue to decay and queues will become multiple hours long.
That’s a whole lot of words to say “yes, that’s true but I liked the game better when all pink names were free wins, and I have yet to learn to cope with them being a threat.”
Been playing Ret as well and definitely notice a difference post nerf, feel like they are fine now, plus played against ret on sham and still they just seem like if anything equal to S tier, meaning able to compete.
Playing against Im not getting globaled and playing with Im not doing excessive damage like before, so you are either bugged and not nerfed or just straight up fibbing
LOL noooooo. No they are not. That’s actually what is making RSS so miserable. As a Warlock, I have a kit to (barely) deal with Ret. Everyone else in my lobby does not. The rounds either end in 15 seconds when the ret is on my team, or–when they’re not–drag on for minutes because I use all my cooldowns to helplessly peel Ret’s go every minute for 4 minutes…while my team stares at the Gate i put down and the healthstones in their bags that aren’t even keybound.
Ret needs to go
That’s rich, coming from a demo lock.
go gaslighting someone else
lol
Take your buzz words back to twitter