Retribution Paladin Bugs NEED to be Addressed

Many people are complaining about ret’s damage in TWW and I believe this issue contributes to most of our grievances.
After spending plenty of time on beta testing out ret paladin, I along with a ton of other players have become increasingly aware as to how broken ret is with either Templar or Herald specs. It looks as though a handful of damage modifiers just are not registering and working with our damage spells.
I am linking a video by Lvlden, who is a revered Gladiator in the PvP community (keep in mind that these bugs are also relevant to PvE). Hammer of Light, Shake the Heavens, Hammerfall, and Light’s Deliverance all are bugged and do not work as intended for Templar. For Herald, Burn to Ash, Penitence, Burning Crusade, and Templar Slash DoT do not work at ALL.
Please have a look at the video for yourself; Lvlden does a great job at illuminating these bugs and his hard work does not go unnoticed.
youtube. com/watch?v=5MfNZrVvSO0
With only a few days to go before TWW launch, Blizzard really needs to address these bugs because it is really hurting our spec, with no hero spec to choose that is safe from losing damage from bugs.

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Yeah, I’ve seen that video. The bugs that he’s addressed are very very disturbing and Blizz really needs to take a look at this asap.

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Broken in the sense of literally broken, not OP. So sad to see.

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Yeah tuning I can be patient for.

Bugs? Not so much.

If you put something in that has a specific interaction and it doesn’t work, that’s terrible.

Do you all remember back in bfa they buffed divine purpose out of nowhere?

Then later they came out and said “we fixed a bug affecting divine purpose, so we are nerfing the proc chance and damage”

So if the spec goes live let alone into s1 with these they might not even bother fixing them and just buff the spec to their desired target

Also this just keeps adding to the “expansion is rushed” talk which Ive been saying since they announced DFs launch date to be so close to the end of SL s4. Why rush the expansion it hurts the game more than the month or two without “content”.

I don’t think Empyrean Hammers having a short range is a bug. The tooltip specifically mentions “nearby” enemies, which usually means 8 yards. And also, if you hit a target that’s 20y away with FV and there is another enemy target near you, Empyrean Hammer will go off on that nearby enemy.

You sure?? I thought the video shows the opposite? :thinking:

I think the disconnect is that Empyrian Hammers target enemies near YOU, whereas people expect it to target enemies near whatever they just hit with FV.

When he was far away from the target there were no enemies near him. There were enemies (target dummies) near his target, but they were not near HIM.

I had a DP proc yesterday and i used it 3 times… in the 8 seconds, i specifically watched as i re-used it as it went with the count from 3-2-1 when i did the 2nd and 3rd usage. If it was a proc of a proc of DP, then the timer would have reset.

So it’s either:

  • procs don’t always get consumed
  • procs happen off of procs but the timer doesn’t reset, essentially limiting your time for re-use

Idk which is true in that case, but it surely looked like a bug to me in any case. :melting_face:

Great news my fellow Warriors of the Light…

According to the latest video made by LvLaden, the bugs have actually been fixed by Blizzard. Here’s da link…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPv42EE5PdA

For the Light! :smiley:

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Shake the heavens requiring melee range is stupid and i cant get myself to believe is intended. Its cutting templars power by a lot in pvp…

I have been running Templar hero talents and I have noticed that at times my holy power points will not stay up and will vanish as I am fighting leaving me unable to cast Hammer of Light at all.
I will cast my HP generators before hitting Wake of Ashes and then I will see Hammer of Light is not able to be used because I don’t have the 5 HP needed even though I am spamming my HP generators and wake of ashes is supposed to have generated 3 HP itself.

I haven’t seen that bug. I made a weak aura that shows me when Hammer of Light is active and i’m at 5 HP to be able to use it.

It shows a yellow streak of light on the right side of my character, easy to see and not obstructive.

You can Import this string if you want to see:
!WA:2!vrvZUTTrq4i4GKawGIg1cdJCYvhYr3ileJ2dbPIk0WUv2sGsXj3K2LCO4IsUlXSl9p5ObkGVeGcDP3152lQx6LEjpbecbO3Ab8dqpONGo7sdhycqWD4mZ3m733SBJ9BM3mUz8vF9kwPjvHdkmcLu7HxmijrdMdE5xCp3ZsMmI8pujKgEVGJhheISixW7fQnm045lKcJhpH(Ot9U0GIzZau)5pfVz5vBUqxazz9uLstR27oNvImjlh0pzDaHoO3wLS9BqMjT4XLAyYmqcOiAuQ6SbYPRUJ51A3NEkvwS6mzOdhVfLupeCUqB0PlIbEzsY4lka8GG(d3)19rc1JPaNU2cFT)EzmTo9ADjhofKMr0VeNVCsVUJgpz04UHJV2g7NA8uFBn4fzSlam0LZQUoMy7xRz8myUnEdXo)0uK6SbYSlMU6wmCL)s3YdJ1E(gQ9cDM32cdrGAHWrdd63FvoZeLc66n9hQ302YDku8LFQPMOOnjZOWwV4fZVToB9GF(VMtERPFVIhZCjoU2(ivm8B3BnjOakzzNqAfTj(15mPGkkTCVQhCsvlFPscxcmnyzYQDwftQM19eBRJAisjJ1FWgWidcYzM0hYlqGME8tyXGFotijCQ2P6BO3Nv1UA3hw1zblRiLnSmtdvpY6UZDC7pJ4osb1mJTCeLHkJRSnwq8uimZo69KnRATIm5eztjukJ5PGywQ5JFg3fpK6NPyXjxhzv5jmzSvfIEkxlKZYG3hMxMzeECdlJi(nR6U5wn(L)o13gez5v00kC3n5PHoBRBFT4DGDXAdCo1Oan8wy51IVQx)UhnC8a)(D79JDF1RoC8HNeW1Qsmc4I8cfA45cev40fOBZ4MtVbM50yKm2c0UuUvhX37zD6057WZV5u53x8Nx9hD688fgv0P162wn(9LTeXRpGLNdO9GuFlrSU(C7(inoyRaFuVWGGJdDS)gHNjInP3)rCsdteZ82TueVm)DVn4n9)2rThoefsl8q6YelaK(YmuwrQmf(dBCWl)V)5FTxo0yJf2Har9DhlfYefwpc5nxdzjUBnQUFtn)570EVDA380p(2)p

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Awesome.

For those of us who are not computer savvy, where in the Weak Aura section do we paste this?

Anyway, good lookin’ out. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Just:

  • type in chat: /wa to open the weak aura panel
  • click the “Import” button at the top>mid-left side of the panel.
  • paste it there and click Import or Ok, whatever it has.

P.S. If you have a Divine Purpose proc… always use it with Hammer of Light if you can, since it can count as 5 HP for its purpose, instead of spending it as a FV.

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Hmmm, I’m trying to copy from here but when I get to the game’s WA and try to paste, nothing comes up.

Edit: Nevermind. Just googled it.

Edit2: Okay, once imported, do you do anything else like press ENTER, or do you just close it?

Thanks.

You just close it, it should appear in the list with the other Weak Auras.

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Does it show when you get the free Hammer of Light as well, even if you don’t have 5 Holy Power?

Let it be know throughout all of Azeroth that you are an awesome individual. May The Holy Light bless you. :smiley:

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Just tested and when the proc is free, it’ll appear and stay like that for its duration, since you can always use it, even if you don’t have any Holy Power.
Though i still want to add a timer besides it… i found that sometimes it’s useful to know how much until it ends.

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