Not the Horde as it is currently presented no.
Yes and I hope with Calia taking over they would become more interesting.
You mean the whole edgy kill and blight everything in BFA?
Yeah lets get rid of that.
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We were trying to save you/us!! You just cant touch the light.
Canon changes, the story evolves.
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…but WHY didn’t Calia just resurrect since she had 2 Arch Priests and a Naa’ru bringing her back. I feel like Anduin, Foal, and the Naa’ru would be able to do so, especially since Calia very recently died.
But they had to go the special snowflake route and say “Undead, but with Light”. That’s like saying Water, but with Fire. That’s why it’s dumb.
That and the idea of a “Lightforged Undead” thing seems really awful and a giant rear-end pull. Like half the Alliance’s allied races. That’s probably what Alliance will get alongside the also “nobody asked for this” Junkergnome race.
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The retconning that would be required to write some scenario where the Horde accept a light-forged being to lead them would be so far out in left field that it would make flat-earthers look at it and say…
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That is what MCHammerofJustice tried to tell me in a musical number, but I refused to listen.
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I think a civil war would do just the trick 
Thats the way we are headed currently.
By interesting you mean what? Homogenizing them into ANOTHER light-fanatic race? I have my issues with the Forsaken with how they are written, but denying everything they are just to smash some Perfection Incarnate Dead Woman into the drivers seat is atrocious to me. It burns away even the interesting and compelling elements of their personalities and culture; leaving only a “Mock-Human” husk. You want that, make them an AR and leave the Forsaken out of it.
What YOU find interesting is subjective, just as what I find interesting … but I’d wager that even the least edgy Forsaken Player would likely be ardently opposed to what you envision for their race (especially since a LOT of their problems functionally could be solved just by essentially being given a leader that BOTH represents who/what they are, AND is actually invested in their future as a PEOPLE). You want to even out the Forsaken? That’s all that’s really need …
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Probably due to the way she was killed. But true resurrection is actually very rare in Canon. It isn’t as simple as game play resurrection.
And now I see why others have said you simply want the worst possible story outcomes for the Horde…because lady, that’s about the worst one you could dream up.
I just think they either should have gone full blown resurrection or actually killed Calia and somehow she wound up raised as any old Undead. And either way trying to get back into the graces of Lordearon’s remnants. That would make a more interesting story than trying to shoehorn in some super special new type of Undead but with Light.
If you set rules in a world and constantly break them then the rules lose all of their meaning. I just feel like the new Calia Menethil is both a mockery of the Light AND Undeath.
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You don’t need the “I just feel…” part in there. This is a mockery of Light and Undeath.
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However, Sylvanas wanted to give her the “Final Death.” You don’t come back as a Forsaken from that. You’re gone, finite, kaput. Sylvanas is scared of the mere name Menethil. The true leaders of Lordaeron.
Whatever it takes to make them chill.
People keep saying that but I am not sure I see it that way at all.
The forsaken are broken and Sylvanas has failed to preserve them or give them a long term survival solution.
Calia offers this solution without enslaving any Val’kyrs or making deals with any old gods.
Hey I don’t like helping the Horde in their rebellion either. I would prefer their utter destruction but if they have to survive I would prefer every evil element of theirs be expunged and light forged Calia cleansing the Forsaken seems like the best way forward in that regard.
And if it pisses off the edgy Sylvanas fanboy Horde player then all the better!
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And it’s a complete cop-out. And it obviously didn’t work. Christie Goldman bungled this up completely and created another Me’dan.
Edit: Further…what “Final Death”!? Is there a Super Death? “I’m Super Serious about This!” Death? Does Regular Death have no meaning? Is everything else just Diet Death!?
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You do know there is an RP forum around here somewhere that you can drop those “I’m a Paladin!” RP lines into, right?
I actually don’t roll play but I do pay attention to what the characters say and do.
Sylvanas has failed to preserve them and give them a long term survival solution because she doesn’t care about their longevity. They’re tools … they always have been, which is why they tend to act with so little consideration to the long term objectives for their people. They only are meant to exist as long as she needs them, then she’ll abandon them. So … fixing a LOT of their problems doesn’t need to come from undermining EVERYTHING they are; just the parts of themselves that Sylvie made them (and Calia is unnecessary for that).
While I may be in the minority for what I expect from Nathanos … lets take him off the Table for the moment and consider the NEXT best option; Lillian Voss. She is far more representative of what the current Forsaken ARE, but also has shown great care and attentiveness to those Forsaken she actually feels obligated to care for (and not JUST their physical well-being, but also their psychological). She is the literal embodiment of the Forsaken Free Will ideology, yet still retains that rage, edge, and apathy that make the Forsaken truly their own compelling thing.
Even if you aren’t like me and see the potential in Blightcaller as a potential Forsaken leader (should he ever free himself from Sylvanas, like the Forsaken themselves) … surely you can admit that Voss would be an amazing Sylvie replacement.
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Look, I don’t hate Calia Menethil as a character, as an idea. As she was in Legion. The idea of the Menethil bloodline surviving is huge. But this was probably the WORST way to go about it. Either have her be “Of the Living” and having to come to terms with trying to appeal to her Undead citizens that’s completely within the grasp of the Banshee Queen or…
or kill her and have her be raised into regular old Undeath. The reason THAT could also be interesting is I imagine it would be the worst thing she could ever think of. Her brother was the Lich King for crying out loud, how is she supposed to come to terms with her own curse? But now she’ll have some ground to stand on with the Forsaken and be an even BIGGER threat to Sylvanas.
That would have been interesting.
Lightforged Undead Calia is an abomination that neither the Alliance or Horde should want.
Edit: Not to mention it makes the Naa’ru look like even bigger jerks than before. I don’t know what’s with the Naa’ru smear campaign lately in the story, between what happened with Illidan and now with Calia. Are the Draenei just a joke to you, Blizzard?
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True enough, but two highly skilled priests and a Naaru is hardly a simple, everyday occurrence. You don’t really get much closer to a perfect setup for a true resurrection than that.
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