This.
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Yeah most people are just prepping for tbc atm. I’m sure most of the retail players will be back to retail in 3-4 months or when 9.1 drops. Dunno if I will be playing retail though since the rdruid/mistweaver changes gave me heartburns
It’s a weird time in the game
I still enjoy playing but when my friends list has dwindled down it’s hard to log on
And the catch up systems are so bad there’s no incentive to convince people to come back
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Good. Maybe if Blizzard sees less people playing the game they will put more effort into fixing it.
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cringe u complain about the game being dead but u along with every1 else buying carries is why it happened
Been trying to help my gf get her spider mount on my alt and 1700 3s queues were taking 3+ mins…on a Saturday afternoon.
Luckily I also had tbc opened and was tabbing back to it to finish up my marks farm between qs lol.
Less and less games are played every day. Check xunamate, it’s sad.
The dedication is unmatched.
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Dann son now I want to level my classic rogue.
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It is dead and it’s blizzards fault
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pvp gear gating rating system is a big reason why arena is dying
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Yes it isn’t helping at all as it doesn’t entice the majority of PvP players that do BGs to step into Arena. Also there is no specific PvP stat which will be mandatory for PvP to flourish.
Then the stat allocation because of the Versa problem. Where is the mastery gear or haste/mastery at the PvP vendor? So many PvP players just skip Arena and do some PvE to get the stats they want and bypass the pain of Arena and do BGs.
Remove Versa add an actual PvP stat. This has to happen.
To add insult to injury the heart and soul of PvP community is dying due to the lack of new BGs or actually fixing Epic BGs. Like the majority of PvPers I play this game to Que up BGs/WPvP and I only ever did Arena for Conquest/Gear. Which means these players just aren’t playing anymore which is the pool of PvPers you are trying to get into Arena.
Seriously when BGs suck there just is no reason to play WoW. Which obviously hurts Arena participation. Then the remaining PvP players don’t have to do Arena since there is no PvP stat and you can just do PvE and Que up BGs which is where PvPer would rather be anyways.
This is a dumpsterfire and as this person said …
Also the PvP community is so divided. BGers/WPvP players which make up the significant majority of PvP would rather have Arena die. They don’t care one bit about it because it has constantly gotten in the way of what they enjoy…which is BGs/WPvP. They just want Blizzard to focus on that area of PvP. Arena players don’t care for BGers either and that is the player base they need for participation.
It’s a tough spot for PvP especially Arena and it is only going to get worse. At least TBC is here. Take some lessons Activision on what a real game and looks like.
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That sounds like a personal issue
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Don’t forget to do Torghast! I’ll be in TBC, a game that doesn’t require you to do any of that nonsense just to be able to compete in pvp. Oh and don’t forget to get your renown up 
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The original sin here is ratings requirements on gear causing casual/average players to drop out of the system entirely.
Few people are going to play a game with no real reward. Worse, even fewer people are going to play a competitive game that rewards the better players with better gear with which to beat players they could already beat.
Entire thing is stupid.
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Tbh I don’t think it’s rating reqs alone, I mean I never though 2200 weapons for example were that game ruining in the past (altho blizz did and removed in MoP) but now we have 87 tiers of gearing which is just silly tbh
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LOl yup pretty much how classic wow happened, Much bigger buzz than TBC and yet it is a lonely desert of bots =(
also, the pro classic people were telling the retail people why they were playing a dead game and the community was WAY better …
It’s no one thing alone, but that is where it starts. The bottom rungs of the ladder drop out as people realize they can’t get anything.
Everything else follows.
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Nah read the rest of what I said, current gearing system is the root of the issues absolutely
But I don’t think it’s simply just because there’s a rating requirement, it’s that it’s on every single piece of gear and there are like 7 different tiers
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They could go back to the S1/S2 model of arena points for playing 10 games and do vastly better than this. Everyone played because everyone could get a great piece of gear, even if they had to save up longer for it.
This system is trash. PR/CR requirements on gear is trash. It has been trash since they introduced it in S3.
Maybe at least go back to WoD. High rating awards elite gear, but everyone can save conquest for some high end gear equal to what high end players have.
STOP gating gear so that casual/average players can’t get anything.
It really, really is not that hard.
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I preferred Cata pvp gearing the most tbh. Elite gear from 2200 and it was like maybe 5% stronger and looked cool. The current system is like 150% stronger at 2400 compared to 1400.
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