Did you also watch the venruki clips where he one shots entire teams on his devastation evoker? Or just the ones where ret does it?
Really? I could clearly see the Seraphim go off 3+ seconds before the wings burst, and on wings nobody pressed a defensive.
Shaman held wall for no reason, Priest used 1 cooldown at 20% hp but couldnāt see which one.
This. The whole team didnāt respect Seraphim + Wings. Dunno what else to say here.
If WoG wasnāt doing such terrible healing right now Ret would feel a lot better. Maybe itās time to remove the negative PvP modifier to healing hands that carried over from SL, Iām tired of healing for less then pure dps classes (rogue, lock, mage, DH, warriorā¦ lol)
Steed needs to either be removed and replaced with a better mobility spell, or it needs to one-time remove all roots/snares when pressed. It also need to be off the GCD, just like every Ret defensive needs to be off the GCD. Iām pretty sure weāre one of the few (only?) spec in the game that has defensives on the GCD still.
Fix these issues, nerf the burst and compensate with 10% sustain buff to TV/FV and weāll be in a good spot to not be toxic for everyone involved.
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Yeah Idk if its true about their āunstoppable juggernautā fantasy that has them not wanting us to be mobileā¦ The least they could do is actually make WoG heal since you have to choose between damage or healing and pure DPS classes outheal us everywhere we go by just doing damage. Then maybe make shield of paper worth taking and not affected by dampening so it actually feels like a defensive. It sucks being immobile, but if they want us doing big damage but be slow, at least give us some way to liveā¦
It would also be nice if they did nerf the burst to make TV/FV a viable choice over JV. and buff its consistent damage like you said. It feels bad to not be able to take that tree because JV is just better in every way and our actual heals are doo doo.
Who at blizzard coined this term lol
Itās cringe, no PvE mob is gonna kite players so steed is something they wonāt change because of flavor
No one cares about seraphim as much as rets play it like itās a huge telegraph. Iāve never seen or heard someone call out seraphim
The whole ret paladin fantasy is so dorky no one respects any of their buttons lmao
Seraphim isnāt a huge telegraph, but the giant glowing wings are, so is execution sentence with an 8 second tactical nuke countdown. Also its pretty easy to notice seraphim when youāre using arena addons like 99% of people do or should.
The āflavorā sucks. It is corny and it needs to go steed is absolute doo doo I hope they fired whoever came up with it.
TO bad the ret can huff and puff and blow before i can. Cause I die to air also.
Arenāt wings off the gcd, itās already too late
I swear devoker/ret/RShaman would have the best burst cleave
Those 2 dps absolutely break details even if their overall dps matches the enemy team youāll see 60k+ DPS from them as the mow down all 3 players
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Deep breath is still almost 100-0ing people and there are clips everywhere of it happening but all anyone wants to link is ret burst lmao
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canāt that be kicked?
No its the one where they fly up in the air and cant be hit or cced
Iām going to be 100% honest, I still dont know what evokers really do. I dont want to really devote the time into learning them and I just havenāt had much reason to really fear them, so 
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You should tho tbh
Like ya seraphim is a tell.
What rets arenāt telling you is we also get 4 seconds of seraphim every set of war.
But ya every 1 min expect sera > divine toll > final reckoning > radiant skill
They feel reallyā¦weird. Almost like a moba character or something. Preservation, anyways.
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Sounds like it sucks.
Donāt play it!
One less stupid bubble I have to wait through.
for a while I thought they couldnāt be kicked, but then I realized my kui addon wasnāt picking up their cast times on their health bars
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Bro a monk complaining about anything is laughable, best class tree in DF.
Why dont you go roll 3 times, flying kick, RoP, diffuse magic, fortifying brew, karma, grapple, insta vivify, leg sweep, transfer 100 times, or do insane burst with 90% uptime?
Like your cat could walk on your keyboard and have a 80% chance it would press a great defensive LMAO.
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what you taking, how much was it, and will you share?
LOL yeah 6min cd for that sweet sweet 20% dmg reduc, 15% health boost, 25% armor (which 25% of 0 is still 0), and 25% dodge which as someone mentioned most people are doing magic dmg so that aināt nothing.
is just as weak as shield of vengeance, minus that it requires los, 20yrds and the target to be in front of you
on a 10 second cd healing for a grand total of 26k on a 380k health pool. Thatās just under 7% of my health pool, idk about you but I know my resource dump dmg is even higher than that.
gladly give this up for a shorter cd stun that canāt be stopped by dodge or parry
not sure why the exaggeration, but this is the only real defensive worth anything, only downside is you force your partners to have to play around it, conceding map control. As well as like vanish, you arenāt putting out any pressure and suddenly cause your team to have to play harder while they fight out numbered.
I cant share it legally.
Monk just seems versatile (less rock, papers, scissors) the tree looks amazing and fun, you have good burst. I really want to level mine up soon but have 4 70s already oof.
No hard feelings man, just seems your spec has a good chance against anything, ret is slow and has clearer weaknesses imo. So it sucks when everyone wants you nerfed when at 2k and higher it feels super rough for our spec.
the tree (at least ww) is a broken mess, our layout is such a joke. We have 7 talents that you can pick without actually picking up the spell they augment some how
The best on a server full of questionably talented players does not make you very good.