Ret Rework Problem

Wow that’s crazy you get it more than he does instantly like it’s not a very complicated thing at all

Good take

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This discussion is a bit over my head as I haven’t touched Ret in a while, but I’ll just say I hate pressing final reck and seraphim. Idk why, but I do and hope they go away. With that said you know devs don’t read this forum Bramot.

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You got a point king.

I already filled something out on the ptr but figured it would be good to raise awareness

Seraphim and final reck cringe

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The real culprit to me is Dusk and Dawn stacking. If you press 12 generators in a row without spending, your next spender will deal 120% extra dam. I have no idea why this thing stack at all.

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Yeah we and rethum talked abt it I’m like 99% sure it’s not actually intended like that (hopefully not)

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the blessing of dawn tooltip literally says ‘‘this effect stacks’’
So I guess this is what they intended?
Unless it should be like the Judgement increasing damage from your next 2/3 spenders. It should only consume 1 stack at a time and not all 4? Idk

Post in the PTR forums

It’s odd. Fv consumes the stacks but JV doesn’t either

Idk either way defo shouldn’t work like that

We will never be slaves

Its 25%

45%, not a tooltip error. Spent like 15 minutes letting another ret Crusader strike me. No cds, 50k crits. 27k crits with Divine Protection up.

Unfortunately it seems to be intended atm, like Cata Taste for Blood. It should be changed. Stacking to 4 just to use one big swing is lame. What isn’t intended though is the fact that JV doesn’t consume the stacks so once you stack up you just keep trucking people.

oh thats just a bug 100%. Like half the things right now, most of it is just bugged, you should just expect for both to consumes it.

But now, it just shouldn’t stack at all if we’re being honest

That was mop, cata tfb was the same as wotlk

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Was it? I swear Cata had warriors stacking to 10 for a giga swing

Sure

Point doesn’t change tho

Ya idk. Then why is it 30% for me and why does the buff say 30%.
Regardless they should remove the hotfix that makes it 45% in pvp which is fairly simple

Think that’s mop. See reckful’s video

But ya that’s a very bad interaction

Correct

Oh don’t get me wrong, I agree. Final Reckoning should go away… at least the active component. I liked the passive component.

Not sure why it says 30% for you. Mine always ticks over to 45 in pvp. Idk if it will remain 45% for PVP. Blizzard’s logic could be that 45% is the halfway point between double walling against Melee for 65% reduction and single walling against casters for 30%.

Uh, maybe, but first season of mop had the big five stack thing.

I didn’t rlly like either
The passive also was like super rng

Maybe? But maybe they just haven’t readjusted that yet because I still see unbound freedom and jurisdiction in my pvp talents

Healing hands vs Unbound freedom still upsets me. As well as Unbound Freedom no longer having dispel protection.

However, I do find it hilarious that divine hammer will synergize with hallowed ground.

I think it’s a great trade off

Huh? I had remi spam purge me with unbound freedom up and he couldn’t remove it

This is good

Yesterday I checked and someone stripped it off me with arcane torrent.

Idk man theyre hotfixing things like mad atm. Its possible that it changed