Ret pvp damage is BUGGED

Right now rets with pvp greens and pve green weapons (571) are doing 3x any other melee dps class in pvp and 2x equal geared in pve because empyrean hammer is bugged and does 4x its intended damage/casts. We are talking 1.5m damage per hammer of light cast intitial then 12 or more empyrean hammers after from 1 cast…into another 12 hammers.

Theyre basically reck-bombing with zero windup.

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You got a sauce for this??

Logged it.

Hammer of light 1.5m dmg then triggered 12 empyrean hammers doing damage to 2 people at 200k a hit in 8 seconds of self-recasting. Checked their gear and it was literally some of the worst trash I’ve ever seen. Their divine storms hit for only about 150k judgment 150k. Verdict 190k. Its just hammers that are bugged.

1.5 million hammer of light on 7.5 million health pools isn’t really anything to write home about, even if empyrean hammer does another million.

This just sounds like normal abilities working as intended?

Try 12m hp. The issue is the hammers are infinitely stacking and recasting. They only did actual damage with hammer of light and empyrean hammer triggered off the hammer of lights for 12x the normal dmg because of it recasting itself.

Do you have a screenshot or a clip or something?? If its a real bug, feel free to report it, but I’ve never seen this.

Yooo did I show you this 4m ms I hit in a shuffle today it was pretty wild

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No, but send it. Gojo would be proud and so am I.

Sent it in cord bro…

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Hammer of light is bugged for sure…

you guys are just wrong … idc enough to explain it to yall but its fine workin as intended

and the hammers of light usually crit for like 2.2 to 2.4 mil but its how its supposed to be

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i havent seen a ret paladin in a few days this must be happening at low low ratings ig

My empyrean hammers do 50k on pvp geared people and my HoL does 1.8, 2M max (this is with crits and I have 7% crit so not reliable) and average 800k. 25% vers 40% mastery. Idk where are you getting those numbers

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same. must be happening at 1kcr where no one has pvp gear or maybe theyre playing with questing greens? idk

Reaching hard.

Sounds like you are just seeing the AOE cleave portion from this talent, probably hitting Pets and other pad crap.

Also with the other talents HoL will put out 3 hammers, and then additional hammers every 2 seconds + a hammer for every press of Templars while the buff is rolling.

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its all pad dam from the numbers hes saying

I’ve seen a couple Rets in 2k+ MMR and rating but I see more BM Hunters (Even when I myself am a BM) and Warriors…I swear I have at least 1 Warrior right now in every single game and they always crush charts. Arms feels insanely oppressive right now if you don’t have multiple casters able to peel them off the kill target.

But yea I don’t see many Ferals (They might be at higher rating bracket not sure).

Not sure but I dunno why Warriors are gas lighting right now about other classes. Everyone knows Feral/BM/Frost Mage are pretty insanely strong outliers right now but Arms Warrior and Fury are also Outliers in the damage department. I would consider Arms a bit less but still extremely oppressive simply because Sharpen talent. Warriors are insane right now.

Most games when an Arms Warrior bladestorms ontop of me my HP just goes from 100% to 30% in less than a few seconds.

How so?

Anyone who has spent half an hour playing templar can see that empyrean hammers are pad damge. By default it drops them on nearby targets not on your main target. They also cleave.

Empyrean hammers are such a nonfactor I would be for deleting them and adding that damage to spenders

dude i want wotlk version of ret back i memeber one shotting with divine storm lmao good times