I wouldn’t expect any alliance nerfs, since orcs have 120% stun resist.
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There’s only like 3 stuns in the game and one is from the worst PvP race, and the classes that CAN stun are the ones that need nerfs.
funny we experienced the same exact thing. Discord is a dark place my friend
Agree nerf pallies and hunters
Whoa dude, nerf hunter instead.
Frequency Illusion. We basically need to have it every fight otherwise we’re just a free kill. Casters can kite & Nuke you, Rogues can perma CC you, Warriors can disarm. Without 2-3 of these skills available (HoJ, LoH or Bubble) we’re not getting much done.
This is the red flag of not knowing what you’re talking, er whining about. You clearly are looking at this from the outside in. Pallies are insanely kiteable. The time it costs us to use a global on freedom we just took 1200 damage from a lava burst, no arcane surge, no wait starsurge. We have no gap closers, no sprints, no charges, no roots, no snares, no slows. All we have is a passive 8% movement speed bonus that really makes no difference in a BG-like setting.
Nobody is wearing full plate right now sweet heart. Bis is like 80% leather.
The great part is that no matter how much anecdotal “evidence” you bring to the forums, no matter how bruised your ego is because you lost a 1v1, we have actual, factual real analytical evidence that Ret’s damage is amongst the lowest specializations in the game currently. The best part is you’re not even posting on a content related character to save face. You know you’re wrong, but you’re too butthurt about dying in a BG to think clearly.
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I think Ret is is doing fine in almost every aspect and is strong in pvp, but no where near shaman. they are climbing wcl but still underperforming and have one of the largest damage bands throughout percentiles. I do not think ret should be nerfed or changed for the sake of pvp at the moment.
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Sorry mate, lead SoD dev plays a Ret pally. Hence why they have been getting buffs every week. And more to come!
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That explains why affliction warlock has not seen any play in SoD.
Ret is doing poorly not because of the class itself, but because the people who plays them are 99.9% mouth breathing morons.
ret is in the middle because of a crowd pummeler martyrdom 30 minute build bringing up the top percentiles. I know you go on every paladin post and talk trash because you are small minded (and have no idea what your talking about) and cant actually have conversation without vitriolic hate toward a video game class lmao so ima just mute this thread.
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i mean youre not wrong, ret paladins are insanely powerful in pvp.
the problem is 90% of them are absolute trash players who just zug, and dont realize they have a plethora of abilities to enable their team to win.
Woah man you can’t post this here, the ret paladins will all come out of the woodwork to say to you you are wrong and bad cause you can’t kill them but they can kill you through a bubble.
If you are losing to ret paladins as a shaman, it is a skill issue on your end.
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this is the second pally OP Post I have seen today, and I have the exact same opinion you have. my jaw drops and I’m just like… people are losing to paladins. They are in a horrible spot. hell, arcane surge instant kills people with arcane power and POM, and its a 3min CD. how are we complaining about 5min pally bubble.
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Good! Tell us when we’re supposed to care.
Meanwhile, the rest of the Alliance will push for anything that reduces the amount of wax crayons eating retnoobs.
This post is literally propaganda to nerf Alliance more. NO ret paladin is globalling people. Are you level 30? If so, then sure. Shamans will ACTUALLY global you by two shotting you and take barely any damage in PvP. The nerf cant come soon enough.
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Paladins are slow as hell. People need to stop crying for nerfs. We are only level 40…
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You should work in a circus, Nice joke.
If a class needs 3 lives 1 with 1h CD and 1 with 5 mins CD only for winning a duel You think the class is broken? Just run when ret is in buble and reset the battle. 
In bg after the ret use DS it Will be a free kill, and OP wah wah crying because ret is plate. Most of rets are using the leather set from gnomer atm And Even with plate the shaman is more tanky than a ret. maybe Your crap healers can dispel hoj and crap shamans can keep purged the ret pal, Freedom, seals, bop, but You all are Bad at this Game.
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Shhhh logic is not allowed on the forum of tears.
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