Ret Paladin Set Bonus in PvP Problems

Classes Paladin
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Hello everyone,

The Ret Paladin set bonus continues to remain both weak and bugged in PvP. Lets start with addressing the bugs:

The secondary strike from Final Verdict/ Justicar Vengeance off the 4 set does not do the full 12.5% intended value. The higher the Final Verdict the lower the % of damage the secondary strike does. Example Image

I am not sure if this is unique to PvP however this issue has gone on since 10.2. It was stated the secondary strike from the 4 set Echoes of Wrath would not consume judgment, however it was not stated that it would be unaffected by blessing of dawn, stat procs, and Avenging Wrath.

Next I would like to address the relative strength of the set bonus.

It is completely unnoticeable from a damage standpoint if you have the 2set or the 4set vs full conquest gear. I was initially excited about switching up the rotation in 10.2 due to this set bonus, but because of the lack of strength behind both the 2 and 4 set it is not worth switching up your damage priority from season 2’s rotation to add more wrathful sanctions to your rotation. (IE a Wrathful Sanctioned Judgment should be more impactful than a Vengeful Wrath Hammer of Wrath but its not, even taking into account the bonus that it would provide Final Verdict).

I hope either in 10.2.5 or in 10.2.7 whenever season 4 begins we can see the Ret 4 set bug fixed at minimum and overall buffs to both the 2 and 4 set in PvP.

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Expurgation should also not be a Magic dot

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Seems like it’s rolling its damage on a fixed value of FV instead of the actual damage.

I couldn’t tell you if it is a bug though.
The way the tier reads it could be that it just cast another FV at 25% strength.
Not an actual “echo” of the one you just did for 25% of it’s damage.

So it can probably crit independently but don’t get the benefit of judgement ever.

Which might be a huge missed opportunity for highlord judgement talent but w/e.

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Wrathful Sanction grants you Echoes of Wrath, causing your next Final Verdict or Divine Storm to deal damage a second time at 25% effectiveness. This effect does not consume Greater Judgment.

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Maybe the previous image is a poor example. It is not a fixed value. In PvP it typically ranges anywhere from 5%-9% of the final verdict. Only the lower end final verdicts are truly around 12.5% which is the PvP value. https://x.com/lvladen/status/1743055443222487220?s=20

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The FV hit for 97k buffed by judgement.
So it’s 20% too high.

If 97k is 120% then a normal FV is 80.8k which means the other FV should hit for 10k not 12k.

But there’s still like 1.5k unaccounted for.

Is this with VoJ?