i did ret paladin in mc the other day… no world buffs clicking all my buttons the right way i can ~221 dps on rag. full enchanted tier 2 with herald of woe, master dragonslayer’s ring, nef head neckace… i was dead weight. yeah my character was swinging but there were warriors and mages doing 2.5x the dps as me and it made me realize any paladin in classic that doesnt go holy is trying to prove something