Ret is pretty bad

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I’m honestly not rlly sure if ret is as bad as it is believed, think sp needs to not be a tank spec, and feral nerfed among other things and ret would do a lot better.

I do agree with you tho if they were to buff survivability they should buff our healing. FoL healing does feel p bad, and perhaps the eternal flame healing buff to you should be just baseline to wog.

Think the palla class tree changes that are coming on the 22nd may help us a bit in those regards
Just rlly don’t want a repeat of DF

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they should just bring back wod pvp

rets could flash of light and word of glory for 30-40% of people’s HP bars. Off healing classes actually off-healed

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It’s hard for me to agree because I still have PTSD from retpocalypse but I agree, ret is weak. Ret’s whole identity is that it’s supposed to have heals, buff the heals.

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seems you got a bit heated based on a difference in opinion as your statement implied “and hpriest would be doing better if disc were less popular”

that’s fine though, I do my best to avoid ragey melee

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Only time I’m replying to you because you are illiterate. Priest healers have the option of playing a top tier spec ret does not. Paladin has 1 dps spec and it’s bad. If you main holy while disc is S tier, you could just go disc no problem and have something to play. If you play lock and aff is bad but demo is S tier, you have a top tier spec to play. For the specs that only have one dps spec like ret, sp, ww, dh them being dumpster tier is much worse than holy being bad while disc is S tier.

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melee player moment

I also like how you googled “difference between your and you’re” before typing that one sentence

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its an online forum, no one cares loser stay on topic. You are a waste of space and can’t even discern the meaning of something if it isn’t spelled out to you in the most dumbed down way possible. Go drool somewhere else

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dang man do you need a benzo? I can probably hit up someone with more education than you if you’d like one

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Buff wog pls, it’s kind of worthless atm, also a small buff to templar’s verdict and tuning down the God specs would do a lot for ret imo.

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Layson somehow making it work against all odds.

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Layson, Jawah, Yahweh, he has many names, he shall always be here.

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This feels like the most egregious issue to me. It’s nuts how much damage it DOESN’T do.

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2200 was way too difficult lol, shouldn’t be so hard when we’re 8 or so weeks in

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I was playing San Layn Blood DK and I could get Vampiric Strike to crit for like 600k on pvp targets :dracthyr_lulmao: FV isn’t much better

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So ret has someone over 2200 now, does this invalidate your argument or are you going to move the goal posts?

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The topic is ret is pretty bad, is ret not bad now? Did you only read the first sentence or something?

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Theres plenty of specs though with no rep, 1 person or only 2 people and yet you really only talk about 3? Im just wondering though because that was your benchmark, what now?

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But like is the spec magically good now? Did something happen to make it not C tier?

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Ret before: “I would sacrifice defense for some real offense. I can’t kill anything that heals!”
Ret later: “I would sacrifice offense for some good defense. I’m getting murdered out there!”
Ret now: “What was wrong with 10.0.7? Ret was balanced.”

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Because very few of you actually play the spec. Ret has gotten its damage spread across lots of things leading to your “main attack feeling like a wet noddle” the tooltip for final verdict on my up to date character said something like 260k damage.

Rets healing is negative, not only it doesnt move bars, it costs both mana and holy power (dps). If im trading dps power to heal myself (a trade very few have to make) that heal needs to move my health bar.

Ret for some strange reason still has a 10.0.7 nerf to its wall, making it borderline impossible to survive any go with only dp and sov. That is not fair

Ret is just as susceptible to its immunities and support spells being purged stolen removed as if it was 2007. No mortal wound also adds to its damage not sticking. If feral got mortal would why cant ret and enhance?

Rets range is a poor mans mobility and the crutch for so many here. That 20ydd range on my atyack that deals 350-400k is nothing compared to true ranged specs.

Overall thr spec has regressed to near pre 10.0.7 status of a meme. I can pad the damage numbers and nothing will die. Very sad

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