And they didn’t get those greater blessings until AQ patch. Paladin vs. Shaman was seriously not close in OG WoW for most of the game.
Though, Paladin blessings vs Shaman totems were a lot more balanced outside of raids. The game was not originally balanced for 40 man raids, but for everything else.
Maybe paladins are. Mage patch in particular is pretty awful for basically everyone else.
I wouldnt go that far but Paladins are a package deal. They can do a whole list of things other classes cant but at the same time they aint as good as those dedicated classes are.
true but still…some changes helped everyone,
like the mana regen helped everyone with mana.
but as for me what i hate the most about revamps is Rogue detect traps, it was so funny spamming that all the time, every rogue did spam that in towns/dungeons/everywhere because you have nothing to press while waiting for energy xD
dunno why people was so mad about that detect traps spam, it had pretty nice graphic effect and then because it annoyed some people blizzard made it passive :(((( i miss spamming that.
I played Holy during the 2021 TBCC revisit. It was entertaining… but after a while i got a little bored of the playstyle. I started to yearn for an AoE heal of some kind. Some heroics are tough as Hpal, having no HoTs or aoe heals.
This time I’ll be playing Resto Shaman.
lets face it, holy is garbage in TBC and so is ret
I don’t remember ret being that much garbage was it?
Ret is like the worst DPS in vanilla so no duh you are being out classed.
You picked the wrong class.
You won’t be getting any buffs bud.
The very last thing we need are more idiot retribution paladins running around the game. If you cant make ret work then play a warrior. I have seen retribution work in PVE, but it will never be a Warrior because it does at best just over 33% of what a also BiS warrior can do in respect to DPS. What I mean but this is if the warrior can do 3000 DPS in Naxx the Retribution spec paladin can deal 1000 DPS, and he will not be using exorcism, so you get that silliness out of your head.
Retribution should never be comparable to fury warrior because if it were then you would see arms warriors rioting to get Arms buffs and I genuinely do not want to ever see Arms get a buff because they already hit for insane damage in PVP. Please recall that in PVP players generally need to use all their abilities, and the players who do not use their full tool kit end up in the grave yard. This is demonstrated by feral druids who foolishly sit in cat form and get slain by rogues and warriors when they could just swap to bear and live forever or run away easily. Retribution is a PVP spec, just in the same way that Shadow is a PVP spec or that Arms is a PVP spec, and because it is a PVP spec it should never compare to a PVE spec like Fury or Fire.
I assure you if they buff retribution then I will demand a buff to Fire mage, because I think that if Retribution gets buffs then I should get things to improve my survival in PVP, also I would like to see frost buffed massively for PVE.
maybe i overblown it a bit but they are definitely not useless
Uhm, there are worse DPS builds in WoW Vanilla than Retribution, far far worse specs. I suspect here that you do not PVE at all otherwise you would know this.
Ret is the worst dps in vanilla out of all commonly used DPS specs.
Your class is trash.
They are better in TBC but only slightly ahead of boomies. Holy is F tier outside of MT healing so you bring 1 prot for trash, 1 holy for MT heals, and 1 ret cause you won’t bring 2 of either of the others.
I suspect you’re full of it yourself, because it takes literally 5 seconds to go to Warcraft Logs and see that you’re absolutely incorrect.
DPS Paladins are consistently across all tiers of content the very bottom performer (even in Naxx with access to excorcism).
Humble yourself before your MAGE GOD!
Ret isn’t even good in PVP.
Paladin is a healer in Vanilla. All you do well is heal and you can only heal 1 person really.
That is why paladins are main tank healers.
And the best s tier tank healer the game has ever seen
My ret pally beats all your ret pallys.
Bro you aren’t even 60 on a single character
Ret exists so Holy Paladins can dual spec it and Solo Quest and abuse Reckoning in PvP.
Atleast in TBC you also get the option to Tank.
2 out of 3 good specs is better than nothing.
You’re just jealous.
https://fresh.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/nightslayer/bestow