legit does nothing tbh, the 30% wall while stunned needs to be a 2 minute cd or a 20% wall and sac needs to be a 2 minute cd sanc needs to be a 1:30 cd then the spec won’t be brooooooken
also they stated specifically they only nerfed the shield of vengeance part of that talent not DP.
Rational pvp enjoyers don’t want flat damage nerf on ret
They want wings uptime to be reduced to 12-15 seconds
They want sac to be a significantly longer cooldown( at least 2 mins)
They want you to have to pick between divine p or shield of veng
They want judgements of the pure to be deleted
Yeah yeah rets damage potential is insane but that’s not even remotely the reason why it’s giga broken. My God people are so clueless
ret needs atleast a 10% dmg nerf if they keep wings at 1min cd
Sounds like execution sentence will get a nerf too which is good.
People instantly just look at the dmg and think that’s why, but the fact they’re immortal and can make their teammates immortal is the problem. Granted ya wings needs some tweaks too at a 1 min cd.
Every patch of this game has broken classes that do INSANE damage and are SUPER tanky(see warlocks in bfa)
Never have we had a dps class that is immortal WHILE MAKING THEIR TEAMMATES IMMORTAL at the same time
You’re not wrong that the main problem is survivability/utility. That said they are still literally outdamaging most classes by 20 percent on details/end scoreboard.
Devs… I’m gonna put some dirt in your eyes.
Gonna cry?
It’s actually absolutely insane. I’ve played over 100 matches this past week at 2400+ and every single team is ret/warr, ret/bm, or ret/demo. Most of them with a fistweaver.
So many instances where they should lose, but get saved by the Ret being a second healer. Even when they run out of cooldowns, they can throw 100k+ instant Flash of Lights on top of being able to burn holy power for WoG as a backup.
Won’t be enough.
Finally…
Now those 145k final verdicts will only hit for 140k. Season saved!
Lol 3% dam ggs guys now ill crit verdicts for 142k instead of 150k
I’m just thinking back to the 3 consecutive weeks, followed by 1 down week and then a 4th week of 20%+ nerfs to DH. Did they need it? Yes. Does ret need it more? Yes. Also I know its the survivability/utitility but theyre also inhabiting the highest dps spot along with that. Honestly these nerfs feel like A JOKE
Fading Light, which no one plays… Who’s Shield of Veng lasts 10 seconds anyways? 3% dmg reduction, great now I live for 3 globals instead of 2. This is to try and shut people up lol. Tell me you don’t play the actual game without telling me…
The weirdest thing to me is that Ret is still middle of the pack in PvE dps even post rework. I was actually expecting them to give the spec another 5% buff to ST damage for PvE.
Every source I’ve seen / read shows Ret single target got a very slight bump, and AOE actually went down in a lot of cases compared to Seraphim + Radiant Decree builds. Not to mention there is no build that is effective at both ST and AOE without nerfing one or the other, which is amplified in M+.
They are literally pve nerfs.
They could buff ret dam any 20% but remove sac and sanc magic bop and judge dispel and the spec isn’t S tier anymore
Disagree, it would stil be S tier, but it would atleast have counters then. If they nerfed most of the utility, things like ret war would probably still be S+ tier cleaves just based on their abilities/synergies alone adding to the high damage/burst. The utility it what takes it from really good op class to absolutely broken disgusting dont wanna play class. Both need to be looked at if you wanted to take below S tier. But utility being the more important/disgusting one.
I missed the part where that’s was my problem.
See you chump.