Ret can't break 8500 dps in full Hardmode gear

Buff ferals while you are at it , why the need to have a dk tank when you could just boost our damage 20%

Breh everyone knows you’re a bot.

Research appeal to authority.

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You can call me a bot all you want that is your opinion and like said before everyone is entitled to it. This was in fact one of the things that shot his credit by not being able to understand that.

Also know exactly what appeal to authority is dosent change anything about what I said. Fact is he is a less credible source than a proven source you trust. Esp when the proven source has given clear reasons and examples compared to joe blow that still has not. While joe blow has demonstrated lacking basic brain power to understand need vs want.

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Sorry I don’t speak NPC.

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That’s fine. Only means you have no place in the convo.

Nah I’ma hang out and make sure no one takes you seriously.

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You’re welcome to, as said everyone is entitled to their opinion this is a public fourm. While anyone is quite able to judge creditability themselves. Someone that leads into a thread with calling someone retarded thou really shows people quite easily how worthless their thoughts are.

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bro you people need to touch grass, this is classic era, this version came out in 2009, kick rocks with crying about balance on classic…

legit go play retail where they are working on class balance, its classic content, parses are cringe.

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The problem isn’t the argument. It’s the campaign for one class.

Deltas of 20%+ are weird. Final-patch balance doesn’t seem to be something to set and forget, especially with all the dev fussing with other facets of original design. And when the numbers are so consistent.

You could get by with +/-10% proportional to output, top to bottom. Gather P2 data for a couple of weeks, adjust. Shore it up. Kinda silly otherwise.

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Retail balance is just as bad tho.

You should of said go play FF14 if you want balance.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Frost Mage
BM Hunter
Warriors
Sub Rogue

Can’t even get near that dps, sounds like your spec of choice is doing very well stop complaining…

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cant wait 10c

nope. reroll if u aren’t satisfied with a 10 yr old game’s balance.

It’s not 10 year old balance, it’s all new.

Ret was never like it is in this state at any point in the game before. All because they are using Ruby Sanctum patch balance without that gear being in the game.

Ret is clearly balanced completely around having a set bonus that we cannot obtain until ICC.

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Won’t happen, they don’t care and neither do other people that you and other ret players listened to misinformed content creators and PServer players about ret being good.

lmao

10char

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You already got your blue post. Ret isn’t going to be buffed. You have two S+ tier specs in holy and protection.

Ret isn’t even totally unviable, it’s still better than frost mage, and subt rogue

Speaking of misinformed.

Those players already rerolled. The ones left are Ret lifers.

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well. guess u just gotta wait till icc.

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It’s really not, go look at sims for P2 and current logs. Ret is second to last in DPS right now and dead last in Ulduar. Dead last by 1200 dps. All other melee skyrocket in Ulduar because of Armor Pen, with the item level buffs you can also near cap Armor Pen. Armor Pen does nothing for Ret.

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