hehe its been nerfed so much 
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sad thing is you cant even run it with ātankā runes anyways .
Im exhausted responding to you. From the beginning of sod you have continued to state opinions that seem distant from the game. You never post on your main character because you lack the confidence to do so. There is nothing we could say to you as i believe your not in the forums in a positive light. You simply choose to spend your day online in the forum to a game you dont play to get attention. If you think ret is op. Make one, show the world how good you are, it would be great
Yes, because Iām listing everything the Class can do.
Is this not enough? I donāt understand, are you not killing them right after you connect?
Did you want a third or fourth gap closer just incase they somehow manage to walk away and hard cast a spell?
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Arent you doing that? At least thats what I see when I watch you on twich. Ur doing a great job showing the world how good they are and how bad the other 80% of paladins are. lol
No its not. Do they not have a trinket to get out of hoj? Do they not have a fear stun or root? Does the paladin in this situation have every cooldown and the person they are killing does not? Rets are just one shotting everyone? I must be doing something wrong then
lol.
ive stuck to my opinions till ive seen that they have been proven wrong.
none of what you have said have proven them wrong.
simple fact is, pallies are everything they said enh shaman were AND MORE since p3 till they nerfed the crap out of enh shaman cause they were nearly as successful as you currently are.
you had no problem (well im not sure if you in particular but just take it as the people who diddnt) calling for nerfs saying they were clearly op in the state they were which wasnt to the level pallies are now.
it is tiring being countered in your opinion on balance.
but really whatever.
i am talking about actual results in pvp and not qualifying things with extra crap that doesnt really matter in the long run in peoples experiences playing with,as, or against pallies.
Arkaviun ur the Abralan of paladins. LOL
If theyāre competent players with stamina/pvp, no Iām not killing them after I connect because theyāre aware that in order for me to beat them I need to hit them in Melee range for the most part, crazy right? If they play their class right they would ensure Iāve burned through all my CDs before they go on the offensive.
Heās trying to explain something to you and your takeaway here is āDo you want more gap closersā Lmaoooo
If the class were simply op the argument wouldnt be ā80% of the pallies are just badā. Rn hunters, shaman, rogue, boomy are op. With that logic, majority of the true wow gamers just gravitate to these classes? Or perhaps these classes hard carry alot of people.
Explain to me how you would nerf Ret paladin, What spells would you nerf by how much and why without crippling them in PVE? What exactly is hitting too hard? What needs to be changed?
we do have the right to compalin about shamans and orcs unbalancing issue. It just sounds like a skill issue on your part. And donāt understand how pvp works.
Ding, ding. You dont see any Ele shaman being OP (gotta have those tank runes). You dont see Hunters being good outside of killshot spamming. You dont see druids good outside of starfall. You dont see any other spec of rogue doing good outside of backstab/ambush spec.
Melee hunter is extremely viable in PVP right now, what are you talking about.
honestly?
i dont quite know.
i would leave it to more seasoned devs to do something about it.
right now they are top dps in the wcl charts (or at least last post they did on the news) so it translates very well into pvp as well.
if we are talking about wpvp either make everyone able to 1-2 global or nerf everyone who can down to the level they cant.
pvp is too far gone atm for it to truly matter now anyways.
What Im talking about is have been farming 500k+ (cuz I still go on after I cap because I love pvp) and i can count on one hand how many melee hunters Iāve seen.
Ok now you dont see any good paladins unless they got bub or loh?
Ele sham is good and better with tank runes becuase they have the option to run tank runes even in ele spec even healing runes. Hunters are good with killshot spam but even with chimera shot these instant 40 yd range spells hit more than their own casted Aimed shotā¦ druids starfall is op so no one wants to run a different build, rogues are good with mutilate or the backstab build. But notice all the classes you mentioned have more than 1 option for a dps spec. Paladin only has 1. I like how you mention specific abilities makiing these classes op, but nothing for paladin
Dude, āWHAT EVER ALLOWS YOU TO GET OFF 8 HITS IN A GCDāā¦ You would know what that is. lol
Other than that they are fine. Maybe buff their off healingā¦ buff it for all hybrids.
false in pvp in particular.
shockadin is a ādpsā spec.
You talking about season of discovery? Paladins are not the top in wcl. And have not been a single phase of season of discovery