Is it me or does the 4 piece not really trigger much?? I am debating just running 2 piece and making sure i have more vers, is this a bad idea? Im not sure if the rare hit of waking ashes is enough to take off 2 items worth of vers.
I just play bg abd rbg these days.
All opinions appreciated
Wake hits hard in PVP, so even if it doesn’t reset that much when it does it will certainly be worth it. RNG sucks, should have been 75% and not 50, cause it certainly doesn’t feel like 50.
Should have been every other Art of War proc… oh look it’s still 50% of the time, only it’s actually predictable what will reset and you won’t get cheated by rng that way.
I Have 2 pcs and i’m completely underwhelmed with the bonus. I think think i actually lost dps because i replaced higher Ilvl gear with Tier.
2pc is good, you just don’t really notice it because its a bunch of stats.
No, it does increase it. Of course you need to lean into to it with the proper talent and conduit but it does increase your damage despite the ilvl loss.
The 4 set is nice, but it isn’t amazing compared to some other classes.’
It really helps if you get a swing timer addon so you can kindof guess when a proc could happen, but it’s never something to rely on tbh.
The recent buffs to WoA and DS were only for PvE, so that was kindof lame.
Honestly, Ret Paladin dps does not feel as if it’s out scaling other classes enough with how hindered we are with mobility, dispels, having no MS, etc…
Yeah I’m not noticing many procs of wake of ashes either and definitely not 50% of the time. I don’t have the exact numbers from logs yet because haven’t cared to check, but I’d guess ~25% to be more accurate. Maybe something bugging out with blade of wrath talent. I’ll have to swap out and see.
Heh, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the increased Art of War rate from that talent was not taken into account for the 4 piece bonus. Either intentionally or inadvertently. I don’t have the 4 piece bonus yet, though, so I can’t speak from experience.
Bruh Seraphim is as good as wings.
8% vers and 13% mastery equal to 21% holy damage done, plus you get 8% crit and haste as extra.
Wings is 20% damage and crit.
Allows Hammer of Wrath and synergize with Sancitifed Wrath.
I havent tried it for pvp yet because I lose way too much vers to actually play with 4set in arena.
But when doing raid and m+ Wake reset is actually insane. So much aoe damage and holy power generation.
I can get 4-6 wakes during wings when rng lucky.
But what makes it worse in pvp is its all about auto attacks, so having uptime, and kyrian really increase the proc chance of AoW with Divine Toll because it gives you 9 stacks of Zeal, while without Kyrian its hard to have that much stacks to play with faster auto attacks.
thats just your imagination bud
you need a fair amount of haste to make it trigger reliably about 22-27%, also in pvp you might not be able to autoatack as easy as in pve because of kiting cc and all those things so you might feel it doesnt proc often
If you have 0 mastery and 0 vers it would be a 22% increase. If you look at (1+m+.13)(1+v+.08)-(1+m)(1+v) And you say set m and v = .3 like you have you get a 28% difference.