Druids instant casting for days…
Priests instant casting for days…
Shamans hard casting everything.
Oh I’m sure having spiritwalkers grace would break the game for resto shamans huh? Not like anyone else can spam spells while jumping everywhere.
Where did I say it affects all healing? I was pretty specific that without BoL, flash of light, which is our most used healing tool, is downright mediocre.
I wanted him to elaborate in his post. Simple.
I entirely misread your post in the stupidest of ways, ignore me XD Apologies.
Because we are not in original vanilla and things that are bad should be changed. It is supposed to be the season of discovery so why not discover new way to make bad spec get better. 
Paladins are pretty terrible in PvP. Great for PvE, but can’t even get a holy light off before getting micro stunned or interrupted for 10 seconds.
Throw curse of tongues on a holy paladin and you might as well go DPS because you at least contribute something at that point.
Edit:
Meant to add that it’s probably just as bad for shamans
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Before phase 2 started, there were people telling us Chain Heal overload spam was going to be “overpowered” and Rshaman were going to be on top.
It didn’t make sense even then since you could already see what CH was going to heal for since it’s a vanilla spell and PoM and WG were already competitive with level 40 CH at level 25 (and we already knew they were going to get stronger with level). They would have needed to a add a pretty big healing rune to push Shaman up to priest levels and instead we got one healing focused rune and it was not only tied to crit chance, but had a lower % than the version it was copied from AND it was put up against the new threat buff.
Sadly MSW was the only interesting rune for resto in phase 2 and it’s not even a healing specific rune.
Which statistics on WCL are particularly meaningful in this regard?
What precisely does “worst healers in the game” mean, and how is it measured?
Note: I’m not disputing the claim, I’m asking for clarification, context, and further information.
There a few factor.
Our healing output is really low. Exemple preist is doing something like 2.3x ours
We have 0 mobility, if we move people dies.
Our main aoe heal is to random. (Even if we go rain it only 15 yard radius making it meh
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if your only metric is hps sure.
in my opinion resto dru is the worst healer because a 31 balance druid focused on healing is on par with them.
I wonder how Shamans compare to Paladins, Druids, and Mages also, and really what else might be considered.
It does seem like (obviously?) priests are the desirable healer to have this phase (and last phase), but a fairly large margin.
Magic Dispel, as well as really good healing output seems to make them very strong. I feel like on the Alliance side, Paladins are starting to come up, but since there are mostly single tank fights, Beacon of Light doesn’t really bump them up like it most likely would/will for multiple tank encounters in the future.
I think this is an interesting point as well. Like, you’d probably want a priest (or two?) as your main healer(s), and you could always have the Balance druid off heal if more healing is needed right now.
I suppose the question is what sorts of trade offs are there, and would other healers fill any particular niche? I mean, in P2 so far, we don’t really seem to have a lot of niche cases, or frankly a lot of open raid spots for random roles.
I guess we could also look at this perspective, which may or may not be interesting: how well would raid encounters go with:
- 2 priest healers
- 2 paladin healers
- 2 druid healers
- 2 shaman healers
- 2 mage healers
Would it matter?
Druid got a great heal ouput and all instant thiere onlydownside is mana cost.
the downside is that resto dru talents are not impactful for the runes that carry them.
if there was a long SERIOUS tank damage fight everyone would see what resto sham excels at. but there isn’t because other healers need lulls in tank damage or they will oom in 40s.
thats the problem resto sham has, its strength is unique among healers so they cannot make a fight we excel at. we are far from weak though. if you saw what i can heal though in pvp youd understand.
I dont think we are playing the same class. Resto shamy in pvp are a free kill.
We do have decent st heal but preist got even better one.
Resto shamy atm are so bad shadow preist nearly got a higher heal output than us.
cause they require good positioning and most people are not good at this game. but if you understand youre the hardest target among horde healers and xhealing is especially potent on you it makes more sense.
if a rogue opens a priest with a 3 point expose theyre gonna live 6 seconds in dispersion then become unhealable. guess its be 4-5 cause muti gen is busted.
also free kill in 1v1? have you tried the leg rune that does 1:1 healing to dmg on your flame shock target?
Spoiler alert Riptide and tidal waves have already been data mined it’s coming in phase 3 like we already know this.
There’s no point in whining about it right now just hang it up until phase three.
buff hpal and rsham, cure the healer shortage!
I guess i will just raid log until p3. Rsham are just to garb atm.
LOL
The -only- healer that might need a buff is RSham. And even then, totems! All the other classes are comparable in terms of HPS. But if HPS is the only metric you look at then just play a priest. But stop demanding everything be equal. Y’all are killing me with this nonsense.
https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/2008#metric=hps
Priest/RSham is our comp in both our runs, one of which is consistently close to the 30 min mark and will hopefully soon be sub-30. RSham is fine and right where it needs to be. Geez. SHAMANS SHOULD NOT HEAL AS MUCH AS PRIESTS, EVER.
Ya right rsham shall do as much as shadow preist… if you have ever played rsham at any content atm you would know how much they are bad. I only play it because it a main I’ve played all my life but even then they are so bad that it make me think of quiting sod as a whole because the dev don’t give them any love.