I full cleared CN Normal this week, and killed three bosses on Heroic. I find that I am going oom halfway through fights and very much struggling to stay afloat by the end, even with two mana tide totems in our group. (Some worse than others, Huntsman and Sun King are especially bad). I played resto through Ny’alotha and don’t recall ever having issues with mana like this. Is it just a gear thing or am I doing something wrong? Emphasis feels a lot more focused on Riptide with the Necrolord ability and the legendary, so are we supposed to be hotting people up and spot healing with healing wave more than chain healing? Really missing my Maut trinket now.
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Probably casting too many Chain Heals
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Were you pugging? If I am with other healers slacking in a pug, I can totally go out of mana easily.
Yeah it’s a completely different playstyle than nyalotha. You rarely want to press chain heal anymore, your top heals should be riptide, healing rain, healing wave and cloudburst
Either the group was making too many avoidable mistakes or you didn’t cast healing wave enough.
I just did a normal full clear last night and ended most fights with 40% or higher mana. On heroic progression fights I am going oom right as the boss dies, and then on the next kill it’s more like 10%.
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Weird, I haven’t changed much about my playstyle from 8.3 and didn’t have an issue with chain heals.
I also don’t have my leggo yet so that could be an issue with it.
Nope, this was with my guild. We have another shaman who pulls the same HPS as me, going oom at the same time I was.
This is completely different from 8.3, then you had corruption, mana essences, mana trinkets, bosses were dying super fast and you couldnt run out of mana if you tried. This is a new expansion where the fights are really long again and you don’t have mana crutches anymore.
You just need to learn how to manage your mana again. Start by never pressing chain heal, only healing wave, healing rain, riptide, and cloudburst.
Can you link some logs and I’ll look at them and let you know what you’re doing wrong
Edit: ok yeah I took a look at your logs.
So on huntsman altimor you cast chain heal 31 times. Try and get that number down to under 5 or 10.
You cast healing rain 11 times out of a possible 32. Try and get that over 25
You cast unleash life 7 out of a possible 25, you need to get that up to 25, very mana efficient
You only cast spirit link once, try and get that to 2.
Your earthen wall efficiency was low, you seem to be using it in times of low damage. Try and predict when damage is coming for that, like when the tank moves the last bear
Try and unleash life your riptides as much as possible. Cast healing wave instead of chain heal. You also only spent 30% of the fight casting healing spells, try and get that up to above 70%
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Thank you, I’ll change up my rotation. That’ll be a hard habit to break haha. I also noticed a lot of people are running Wellspring in raids, so I’ll try that out too.
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We had insane amounts of crit in 8.3 so we basically had a bottomless pool of mana. I could definitely understand why it was a rough adjustment.
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Wellspring is a very Mana efficient spell, but subject to some weird calculations and bad positioning. Personally I’m loving the return of Wellspring meta, it was my second favourite spell in Legion (RIP Legion Gift of the Queen)
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What’s a good way of determining when to use this one? It’s probably the one spell I’m still confused on using correctly.
Go to Warcraft logs and look at the damage patterns of the fight. Look at when people have the lowest health, and figure out how you can fit the most spirit links into the fight at the best times.
The other time is to use it just before large damage comes in - the charge on sludgefist for example
Resto shamans are one of the most mana efficient healers in the game. When doing relevant content you should never really be using chain heal or healing surge at all. Riptide/Healing Wave does more than half your healing for practically no cost and cloudburst is basically a free aoe heal nuke. Make sure you’re using mana tide twice per fight and stack a ton of crit for resurgence procs.
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I see you guys keep mentioning healing wave. I love healing wave. My thing is, every guide i see says top stats are crit and vers. Healing wave’s cast time is slow asf, Even with the tidal passive, its still a 2 sec or more cast if you dont have haste. I started to focus on haste and crit a bit more. Or am i doing something wrong? Oh… Havent raided yet, btw.
Crit/vers only if all ilvl are equal. Always take the highest ilvl because our stats are so close.
Stats are also situational, for example Maeve was enchanting mastery on sludgefist
So around what percentage should my haste be at? Crit as well. Ideally.
Mines at 10% in raid, it doesn’t really matter
Yeah I mainly heal with Riptide and Healing Wave, yes it’s a long cast but it is the more efficient way to heal. Your mana won’t run out this way and I think Surge is only good if it crits? ANyways, I rarely ever have to drink Shaman might actually need a nerf in their mana pool. Also keep earth shield on tank.
Tried this out in raid today. I got some much better parses including a 96 on Shriekwing. It feels much better on mana. The long fights are still a bit of a struggle but mana pots filled in the gaps. Thanks a lot for the advice. 
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This was a very nice thread. Everyone being civil, cordial, and helpful. Way to go, shaman forum!
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