Resto, please don’t remove Moonkin Form

Please Blizzard, please reconsider removing Moonkin Form from Resto, I understand you needed to remove it from the class tree and I agree with that decision but make it baseline then so we still have the option to effectively “Owlweave” in TWW.

I’m mentioning this because Resto is essentially losing a dps playstyle moving into TWW, Kittyweaving and Owlweaving are both great to have, they both cater to a preferred way to dps, Melee vs Caster but more importantly both play into the whole theme of being a Shapeshifter.

Another huge disappointment is in TWW you really double down on this Shapeshift theme with Fluid Form , personally I think this should be a baseline core talent for Druid, but a welcomed addition, but then go on to add further talents to really incentivise this, Call of the Elder Druid and Dream of Cenarius. Let’s not forget the talent Master Shapeshifter that now loses 1/3rd of its purpose as it will only be useful for Bear and Cat form, which further incentivises to go Kittyweaving.

With the loss of Moonkin Form really on the dps side it strengthens Kittyweaving as the only real viable choice for dps.

Hero Specs also sort of further play into this with Wildstalker, Hunt Beneath the Open Skies granting a further 5% Damage and Healing while in cat form.

It’s quite clear Wildstalker is where you go for more a Kittyweaving focus playstyle, a lot of the talents and benefits really double down on this, and I think it’s great option.

In saying that I feel like Keeper of the Grove should double down on the Owlweaving fantasy (if they made Moonkin form baseline), which could be easily implemented with the Talents already.

  • Dream Surge, Grove Guardians causes your next targeted heal to create 2 Dream Petals near the target, healing up to 3 nearby allies for. Stacks up to 3 charges. Also gain 1 Stack of Dream Burst, Stacks up to 3 charges.

This change gives more synergy, per Grove Guardian you get 1 stack of each Dream Surge/Burst, so while regularly healing we can bank Dream Burst for our DPS moment when turning into a Moonkin to Owlweave.

  • Harmony of the Grove, I’d like it to be changed to have both 3% Healing and 3% Damage of Spells per Grove Guardian out.

Really it’s all minor changes, but most importantly it keeps Owlweaving and Moonkin Form a viable choice for those who prefer it, it seems like a horrible shame moving into TWW we will lose this form :frowning: .

While this change might be minor to some, it really has killed Druid for me, I love being Resto and love being a Moonkin, to me owlweaving was the perfect thing.

Bear Form for Defence, Cat Form for Mobility, Moonkin form for DPS, Night Elf/Tree Form for Healing, it essentially was the perfect harmony of using all forms. The perfect fantasy as a Druid.

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Moonkin form as resto was always a bit of a love/hate thing for me. It’s nice for being able to do a few niche things like help control which spells convoke casts, but otherwise it’s just an unnecessary GCD that you need to spend in order to un-gimp your DPS. I’d rather that the Moonkin effects become baseline (10% damage increase, etc) without having to spend the GCD.

But fluid form removes the gcd, they’ve made weaving into different forms infinitely easier moving into TWW. That’s why I can’t believe they removed it. They made so much QoL improvements but then remove a portion of what it would improve.

They essentially made it more “Fluid” to actually kittyweave and Owlweave.

In case you didn’t know about the new Talent in the class tree,

Fluid Form

Shred and Rake can be used in any form and shift you into Cat Form.

Mangle can be used in any form and shifts you into Bear Form.

Wrath and Starfire shift you into Moonkin Form, if known.”

No GCD required to shapeshift, it happens pressing the relevant skill.

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they should just not remove anything players enjoy (especially the option to specialize in a dps form)…and if they want to trim bloat, get rid of useless garbage that still exists in the druid class tree. class fantasy & the gameplay should always come first imo.

every time i feel like our spec feels right, it’s like they mess with it, and screw it up again…i don’t expect this out of modern wow in 2024 tbh…this is one of the oldest classes, and the devs should have this stuff down and feeling tight after 20 years imo…

this is why i don’t have high hopes for the hero talent system…i bet it’ll just end up being safe and boring.

i haven’t had much negative feedback about this class/spec in years…but this is not looking good

just waiting for the moment they remove efflorescence for some random, dumb reason they will hardly/never explain.
:face_with_spiral_eyes:

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Moonkin form should be a cosmetic form like the basic Treant form became. Players who want it have it, players who want to blast as their character have that too…

its a win win

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def agree…that would be fair imo

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As much as I agree with this premise, I don’t think this is realistic. I’m sure someone likes every ability that exists; there would never be an opportunity to ever remove anything.

And then as a feral druid make, I never want owlweaving to be a viable part of my spec ever again. But I know there were players who liked it…

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This is a dumb take. How you play druid and say this. Moonkin form gives stats so removing the form would be removing the stats it gives. Now if you are saying remove the form keep the stats so we just that’s something else but that’s dumb cause we already have a glyph that does that astral and the class is DRUID, DRUIDS are shapeshifters. The fact they removed the ugly tree form for the healers was bad enough (they added it back as a glyph). They should of stayed with it then updated the model to be botani or just a better tree form. I used to hate the moonkin form aesthetic so I used astral until zandalari came out i switched but then they added the new cosmetics so I switched back. That’s besides the point, moonkin form should be BASELINE to the class not just 1 spec. Resto’s owlweave, ferals did it for a very little while (a lot didn’t like it, I did). Putting moonkin as baseline form for the class like all other forms is a Win Win, cause if you dont want to use it then it just stays on stance bar no need to touch. In pvp it’s extra armor while mounted, or in open content it’s flap cause you almost died from fall.

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Love this. +1 for this petition. Shame we already so close to TWW and no change was made yet

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I been fighting for them to bring it back all on Beta… :sob:

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Sorry, I haven’t played this character. I have been too busy enjoying SoD Druid, which actually got the Moonkin design right.

You know what doesn’t have Moonkin in SoD? Anything but Balance…

“Owlweaving”, or whatever the cope term, is just GCD bloat hiding behind Always On game design. Druid, regardless of form, is a casting class first, augmented by wildshapes.