Respect the artist, and deal with consequences

You asked for these systems in advance?

I liked the way scryers and aldor worked, and I always wanted WoW to feel like a real game with different pathways, ones that feel realistic. I see this as a step toward that.

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Thats the thing about being a paying customer. I can praise,or criticize as I see fit. The team doesn’t listen to anyone,but the shareholders.

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Nothing more realistic and meaningful than saving 4 different factions that have no problems with each other, just to be shut out after officially joining one of them.

Like if you were given a purple heart in America then Knighted in the UK but once you become an official British citizen then Trump calls you up and tells you that you’re never allowed near the US again.

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Lol I guess since you’ve made 5k idiotic posts somehow your opinion is more valid? LOL

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Thats oversimplified, the team listen to the game director, who is appointed by the board (or whatever internal structure) who are ultimately accountable to the shareholders who actually OWN the company.

I have considered investing in ACTIV a few times, year on year growth was great until external market pressure in September 2018 led to a wipeout, which it has only just recovered from.

I think video games and streaming platforms will see some good growth off Wuflu, as people are locked down globally home entertainment is a natural area primed for gains.

DYOR.

Nope. You can make the meaningful choice to stop playing. Enough dropped subs will say more than any forums.

Sooooo

Your post was flagged as a real life threat : the community feels it is threatening to a user.

So when people disagree, they want to silence ? That’s called censorship, and a d***move :slight_smile:
Not being that afraid though, it’s been hidden and restored once already by staff, so it’ll likely be restored again…

This is an automated message from World of Warcraft Forums to let you know that your post was restored. This post was flagged by the community and a staff member opted to restore it.

But still, REAL LIFE THREAT ? Waow… exactly the people I talk about in the post… poor little children threatened by the mean mean post.

EDIT :
As expected :

This post was flagged by the community and a staff member opted to restore it.

Probably because it has proven to be bad time and time again. They were told it was bad with azerite gear. They ignored the feedback, then spent half the expac reworking it because, surprise surprise, it was bad.

When you find any other mmorpg that locks character power/gameplay behind an rp choice, let me know.

See, the devs don’t want that. That’s why when subs start nose diving they suddenly realize “oh, maybe the players were right”. Sadly people are losing patience. The game is slowly dying, and the devs are actively helping it by not listening to the players about systems they obviously know more about than the devs who see the system through rose tinted glasses.

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It doesn’t matter how much they whine either.

Never occured to you that “fixing” it mid expansion also is a good way to give all players a bit of what they desire ?
Those who enjoy the choice and constraints of congregation will experience it at launch, and probably until the first part of the campaign is over.

Then within one or two patches, some kind of “oh now we’re all super buddies and share ressources” and all soulbinds and abilities will be shared, and those who want to switch at will are going to be happy too.

Yea, nothing better than fixing it after the players that wanted it to be good from the start have left. Perfect timing.

Also

This is the case from day one.

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I feel you don’t get what I’m saying. They announced the system like this, and some people are genuinely exited about it. Remove it now, and those people are going to be like : uh you didn’t deliver what you annouced you would.

I think compromise to be important.

This isn’t compromise though, this is stubbornly launching a terrible system despite pages and pages of detailed accounts of why it is terrible, and how those problems can be fixed.

Also, people that want a locked system can lock themselves into said system, the devs don’t have to do it for them.

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You are a writer. Do you know what that requires? Literacy, and the desire to brag.

I am an author. When you reach publication you will learn that art is made to be judged. We create it, and that’s it. Now anyone or anything can criticize or attack it.

Every time I publish a novel there are a few one stars. I don’t come to the comments and castigate them for not liking my work. Art is subjective. I thank then mentally for buying my book, and this next part is critical.

I listen to my fans. If they don’t like where the story is going, or the mechanics of the rpg, then I have room for improvement.

Safe spaces are for amateurs. Professionals have thick skin and don’t blame fans.

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So just assuming I didn’t reach publication right ? Funny…
I’m all for criticizing (already said) and have conducted several beta-readers programs, i’m just against crying fans acting like children and adressing devs in so unrespectful manners and being SOOOOO hurt when their precious feedback is not actually implemented. Grow up and live a little.
However, I would in my turn give you a piece of advice, take it or leave it. If you change your story significantly on feedback just to please your fan base, then you’re just writing to sell, which usually translate into poor quality and consistency of the story over time.

I have about 30 novels in print. I also have non-fiction for authors. I have been invited to speak on five continents. One of my books is called Write to Market.

It teaches amateurs, like you, that if you want to write full time then you need to find the overlap between what you love to write, and what they want to read.

You can make an artistic stand, as The Last Jedi did, but your fans will feel betrayed, and stop reading your books.

Consistent tone, honoring genre conventions, and writing strong characters help you sell books. Listen to your fans, or pay the price.

I’m a working author, not a snowflake. I deliver the emotional experience they are after. If I fail, then either I fix it, or lose readers.

Have you ever published anything? Have you ever worked with an editor? A real one? They will be far more brutal than any fan. If you ignore your editor because art, then usually your art sucks.

Stories have structure and conventions. Games add mechanics. All three must be done well to keep fans happy, and if they are not the fault lies with the artist, not the player / reader.

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I have to thank you for writing that book. It guided me from focusing on what I wanted to write…but which did not fit the tropes of the genre…to a genre I love just as much and can write in the manner readers expect. Learning how to find that overlap was truly a revelation.

And OMG, I didn’t realize you play WoW!

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I mention it in several non-fiction, and in The Dark Lord Bert =)

I admit I haven’t read ALL of your books.

…and honestly, I think I have this idea that most people who DID play have quit.