What is up with the removal of improved sunfire(the talent that lets sunfire hit everything within a radius) on the ptr?
The aoe component does not appear to be baked into the base spell and I can’t find that effect in any other talents either
It should go without saying that this change would be cataclysmic for the playstyle of balance druids in keys.
Is this an oversight and has blizz provided any context for this or did they just slap caster druids with a massive aoe nerf for no apparent reason?
I was looking to play balance as an alt next season but this changes things since I, and likely most other people, have no desire apply sunfire individually to each target in aoe situations next season.
It’ll actually just be a 1 point node with Imp Sunfire baked in.
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It’s not being nerfed. Improved Sunfire is being baked into the normal Sunfire talent. Presumably this is because:
A) They should be combined anyway
B) This means that with the addition of Moonkin Form to the class talent tree you’re not spending an extra talent point.
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At the time the post was made, the description on the patch notes did not reflect that(in fact the 11.1 ptr talent calculator and the patch note post on wowhead still do not reflect this at the time of this message). My post explained this.
The reply before yours shows how they intend to make the aoe component baseline.
I’m not sure why you spent the time to convey the same information as the reply before you in a worse way but thanks, I guess.
I do agree they should be combined anyway since that’s basically the spell’s identity at this point.
I’m not sure why you spent the time to go out of your way to be rude. But thanks I guess.
I wanted to add more context as to why the change is being made in the way that it is. I’m not blaming you for misunderstanding how the change was being implemented so you don’t need to make excuses for it. I wasn’t being hostile to you so I have no idea why you’re being hostile to me.
Probably the same reason you came crying to the forums before anything was even set in stone. Using the PTR and acting like it’s the finished product is foolish. Yet here you are
Probably because I had a question and wanted to get more context before I started to treat it as a complete product(as in my post was composed of 2 main parts, the context and the question but that clearly went over your head).
Your entire first post was hyperbolic freaking out about a nerf, reflected in the title as well. Watching you now try to backtrack is entertaining though.
My entire point of my first post was was asking about the changes and if that is the full story(as in providing context and then asking my question, the sole reason for the post). Seeing you intentionally misrepresent it so you can make a scarecrow argument is entertaining though(btw commenting on alt characters to make it look like more people are joining in is really embarrassing. You could have at least chosen a max level toon instead of an unleveled one.)
If you’re going to try and play the avatar card, at least have the decency to not do it so poorly. About 30 seconds of checking would clearly show I’m not Grizzle, and I primarily play EU. Now go back to your whining about nerfs that don’t exist.
Very believable. Have a nice day, grizzle.
You didn’t have a question. You had an accusation. Very different.
Then why were you freaking out from the get go like it was already a completed product?
The lengths people go through to try to avoid admitting they were wrong. Intense
Nice to see you back on your primary account.
“Is this an oversight and has blizz provided any context for this or did they just slap caster druids with a massive aoe nerf for no apparent reason?”
That was the question, the rest was context for the question.
This has been a lesson in basic reading comprehension(of course that doesn’t matter to you since you clearly just hopped into the thread to try to rile people up like the troll you are. Your post history shows you just like going to various threads and misconstruing statements to be a punk). Have a nice night.
That was an accusation
It was a question. There isn’t even a reasonable way to conclude that it could be an accusation.
An accusation would read more like, “I can’t believe blizzard is screwing over boomkins like this” or “Why is blizzard ruining their aoe?”
Of course it doesn’t matter because you are just trolling. Heck you didn’t even have anything to say to my actual accusation, that your post history shows you just appear in threads and attempt to rile people up. You’re just hoping you can bait me into a rage and say some stuff that goes against forum rules.
At least you admit that you admit that you are a troll by omission so I can happily stop bothering to reply to you after this message.
Have a nice night.
I think a good QoL that would help would be to add Moonfire to be an AoE application to help the ramp we have.
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Speaking of lessons in basic reading comprehension… regardless of any questions about a finished product or not, your question would have been answered by just reading the dev notes that accompanied the change. The issue you were worried about was never real as a work in progress or otherwise.
You look at it entirely wrong.
The “ramp” does 25% of your overall damage.
Stop looking at it as simply a maintenance buff and look at it as multi-dotting. Because its still ticking and doing damage while youre building AP, while you’re moving and unable to cast, when youre going bear form to survive, etc etc
I understand what you mean, but going bear form is a clunk fest. Other dps specs just ether don’t use a defensive, or use one and continue to cast.
The long ramp is also added by the outdated eclipse system. Twin Moons has a cool name, but feels a bit dated in todays game speed.
You’re still looking at it wrong. Your “ramp” is the second highest damage output. The whole mentality of “it feels bad” from lack of understanding where damage is coming from is the problem.