I haven’t done extreamly extensive trials, but, maybe some of you out in the community can try it for yourselves… put on some resistance gear, dual someone and have them only cast that element at you. I would be interested to hear if anyone can get a partial resist on a single spell. As far as I can tell elemental resistance has 0 value in PVP angains any caster.
I have tried this with about 96 frost resist against a frost mage, and about 120 shadow resist agains a shadow priest. In both cases, I did not get a single partial resist on any spell. For comparision in molten core with about 130 fire resist on the nasty packs, I consistently get parial resists, and overall resist ~30% of thier fire damage.
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Most shadow priest have 10 spell hit by talents so that’s a bad test subject. I normally rock about 120 shadow resist and eat fears and bolts from locks. It’s not consistent but very noticeable.
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Spell hit does not affect enemy magic resist! The penetration stat is for this, and only mage has it (10p at 2/2). Warlocks do have curses to reduce enemy resist, but this is a debuff that benefits anyone hitting the target.
I’ve seen Cdew duel a warlock with a lot of shadow resist. While he partial resisted the shadow bolts all the time, the affliction dots were barely resisted, probably because of the lower resistance to affliction spells talent.
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You won’t see any partial resists on frost spells because they’re binary, since they have the additional effect of also being snares, so you will either full resist or not resist at all. As for shadow, I’ve seen myself deal shadowbolts that get partial resisted.
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Many casters have 6-10% spell hit through talents and then there’s gear. Mages even have some spell pierce.
spell hit has -nothing- to do with partial resists
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https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Spell_hit
My understanding is that a frost bolt has 2 (possibly 3 parts with the frostbite talent) portions to it. #1 the damage portion, not binary. #2 the slow portion, binary. #3 frostbite if applicable, binary.
Is this not the case? Shouldn’t one be able to receive a partial resist on the damage portion?
nah, any spell that applies a debuff is 100% binary, to my understanding.
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By this logic you should never recieve partial resists against NPC’s with frost resist. All of your frost bolts should hit for all or nothing. This clearly isn’t the case. Most murlocs for example have some amount of frost resistance and partial resists of the damage portion of your frost spells are somewhat common.
There is no way the entire frostbolt is treated as a binary spell.
Would not be a surprise if this was yet another thing that’s bug city.
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Nightelf nature resistance is absurdly strong, but I agree with the rest…it seems heavily skewed for some reason.
https://imgur.com/a/KqcSMy7
First day of PvP only. There were more occasions, but I didn’t want to take an hour looking through my SSs and missed a few due to not being able to pause PvP every time.
Those are all 50% resists (despite the brackets saying a lower number; the other hits you see in the combat log will prove this.)
Frostbolt is definitely a binary spell
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A hit and a resist is not the same thing. people are crazy
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In vanilla if someone had a lot of fire resist you would certainty notice that your fire blast did crap all. if a fire resist junky is not laughing at fire mages then yes something is very wrong.
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Something IS DEFINITELY BUGGED here. Just looking at the duel tournament rules… IIRC if someone were to stack over 200 shadow res in TBC (at level 70 mind you), they would pretty much rick roll a warlock or spriest. 300+ became completely unwinnable for the opposing caster.
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Ahh so it’s spell pen that affects resist?