Report Appeal System Needs to Be Changed

I suspect you are incorrect in the assertion that “someone” reports you and that starts the process. From everything I’ve read it takes multiple reports before Blizzard takes notice.
I do believe that every allegation of wrongdoing should be investigated by an actual person before a ban is imposed, however I don’t believe that is the case and it is currently entirely automated. If that is so then it is just wrong.

Doesn’t really matter if you say you didn’t kill that man while standing over his corpse, bloody knife in hand. That’s how Blizzard sees you when they read the logs.

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If you ever are actioned somehow, I truly believe blizz loves it – LOVES IT – when you try to appeal and want to argue your case. Your wanting to appeal your case gives them a chance to double down on offending and upsetting you.

Blizz doesn’t care about you. If ever you are actioned, eat it. Sit down in front of that plate of butthurt and chow down. Deal with it. Don’t appeal, don’t submit a ticket, don’t do anything. Spare yourself the stress.

Nobody at Blizzard is sitting at a desk laughing at appeals. Have you ever had a job, honestly?

You’re a subscriber, that’s it. Walmart also doesn’t care about you. Apple doesn’t care about you. Google doesn’t care about you. McDonalds doesn’t care about you. No large business cares about you.

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Oh look, it’s Kiper the magical gnomish level 10 wonder troll.

/shoo

Yeah, it’s me, walking into another thread to see you whining about Blizzard. Color me surprised. :roll_eyes:

You’re gonna be colored perma ignored if you keep it up. That’s your second strike.

I do understand what you mean, however this isn’t the court of law and there is no reason one should be breaking the rules, you can say you were baited, you didn’t mean like that or the other person said something first, it doesn’t matter.
while in the real world you pretty much always have the right to defend yourself that’s not the case in wow.

Feel free to do so, I’ve yet to have a constructive conversation with you. This isn’t a punishment. Any time you reply to me you just say something sarcastic and nonsensical anyway. We’ll likely never have a decent conversation since you it seems all you do is complain anyway.

Suit yourself. The next time you try to throw bait at me and fail to get a response, you’ll know why. I’m not someone who can’t resist the temptation to peek at hidden responses. When you’re dead to me, you’re dead to me. Buh bye…

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This isn’t an airport, no need to announce it. It’s not a big deal. lol

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I want to address the whole baited thing. Report them for trolling. Do not retort and buy into it. I get that kids still play this game, or people who never grew up mentally, but they tend to be the ones who “bait” other kids. It is a self defeating circle. You can be respectful and say your piece without being a total disgrace. For example, I am a Christian but this is not the forum to proselytize. I would be one of the first to report such things as it is not conducive to argue nor say inflammatory things. It is best to hold your peace and use the report button, and you will do well. Interacting with said people should get you silenced as well to teach you to NOT interact with said people in the future.

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Never did.

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a report is a report.
it doesn’t need to be fair or unfair.
a person can report anything they want.

if it’s not breaking any rules, no action is applied to the account.

it’s pretty black and white.
either you did something wrong, or you didn’t.

…but if you think you’ve been unfairly actioned, feel free to go post in customer support forum about how innocent you are.

it’s always satisfying watching a blue poster explain what “really” happened. :slight_smile:

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Now I want to address where OP said that “I should be able to state my case”
Hitting the “appeal” button is good enough. Anything you have to say can easily be inferred. You going on a long rant isn’t going to change anything. Let’s say I am a moderator for a second looking at this.

There is a squabble where someone said an off color joke. Lets say person a says something inflammatory as: “gosh I just hate the color clear” and it is well known that the color clear is generally well liked. You then feel the need to go on a rant arguing with person a. It is not conducive. I would ban both the arguer and arguee. You saying “but but but the color clear is awesome and everyone loves the color clear!!!” is not going to change my mind on the matter.

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Hmm. I hadn’t considered this. I always assumed that one person was more than enough for a report to go through to Blizzard.

Another problem I didn’t mention is Blizzard’s escalation system. Basically, from what I understand, no matter what your infractions were in the past, every reported and punished infraction adds up to escalate the next punishment regardless of infraction. For example if you called someone a slur and got muted for a few days once and then called several people bad at the game and they all reported you and Blizzard decided that that was punishable… then your punishment for calling people bad at the game will be a longer mute than the previous mute for using a slur. And this continues to escalate, regardless of the severity of your infractions. Every subsequent infraction escalates the preceding punishment.

Now I’m not 100% sure on the above paragraph but that’s what I understand to be the case. If someone wants to correct me on that feel free.

Okay… by that analogy if I picked up a knife on the ground because I was worried someone might injure themselves after investigating a body, and I get accused of murder I should at least be asked if I committed the murder.

This isn’t far from the truth I’m pretty sure. Some of the GM’s seem to love to be able to tell you off. And it’s probably because they deal with a lot of immature and obnoxious people and they just assume you’re one of them.

Wish I could… but the stuff I did 10 years ago as a kid is inching me closer and closer to being permanently banned just for calling people stupid in a BG

I guarantee you at least someone has. Do you not interact with much people?

I’m not saying that Blizzard should listen to me why I was “justified in breaking the rules” I’m saying that I should be able to appeal to the people dishing out my punishment by explaining why I think that I didn’t break the rules or at least plead for mercy. People make mistakes… being permanently banned from the game for saying mean words without a chance to defend yourself is ridiculous. Yes, I understand that’s a bit of an extreme case but with the current system that can happen.

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no matter how you spin it, if you got banned permanently for saying mean words, then those words were actually said and you committed said act. Only 1 word comes to mind that would result in a permaban, the N word. You said it. This is not picking up a knife, you used it and pushed it in.

You do realize there are people IRL doing (long hard) time for just that, NEVER touch evidence…

Blizzard isn’t a court of law, they are Judge, Jury and Executioner. Basically Judge Dredd. You have no rights.

Yeah, eventually it comes out. With the new Social Contract, don’t do that…

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well, no? there is no mercy, you broke the rules to a point where a bunch of people reported you, the staff saw that you in fact did break the rules, there is no mercy, there is no “it was just a mistake” or “its too much”, the GM isnt there to help you get away with breaking the rules lol

even with the new social contracts, which I am a big fan of, you dont get a permaban for calling someone stupid. The only way you get a permaban is racism. take your racist behind and leave. you are unwelcome here.

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