If you compare the other world buffs, they don’t have cooldowns because they take time or timing to get.
What do you think will happen if the CD is removed from DMF? The first time your raid wipes, your parse junkies will be asking to drop group and be summoned back.
I knew that after Chronoboon was added to Era that people wouldn’t be satisfied. You are not entitled to full WB for every combat encounter. They are an extra bonus for helping your raid and if you lose them, better luck next time.
I think WB should just be removed from raids at this point and only allowed for prior phase content. World Buffs are cool and special and should remain that way.
That’s a player problem, not a game problem. Nobody is going to want to sit around for 15 minutes waiting for DMF/summons after every wipe.
Besides, any guild that sweaty won’t be wiping in the first place. Not sure what the issue is.
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If they change it, who cares. I don’t see the problem. There are problem that are More important for the devs to do - but this seems like an easy change if the player base wants it. They should just do a poll and go off that.
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It doesn’t take 15 minutes, more like 5-7 at most. But then your Warlock is stuck there as a summon bot.
My point still stands, world buffs are bad for SoD. They were part of the original Vanilla meta and have no place in SoD raiding.
This makes world buffs meaningless with no risk. You shouldn’t be able to lose them and get them back so easily.
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its not blizzards fault parsers have parsebrain and are bad and lose their buffs
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I couldn’t agree more, the 4h CD with the boon is legit disgusting and uncalled for.
Changes should be to fix a problem with the game. Not having DMF every single pull is not a problem.
Pretty much why I said they should do a poll , if people want the cd removed then do it, if they don’t then leave it alone. Seems logical to me, I don’t care either way.
Who said it was even being considered?
I thought maybe someone knew something I did not from twitter maybe. Not sure
So to start off with. Removing world buffs was in the words of the creator of SoM’s biggest reason why it failed. World buffs are vanilla wow, its part of the experience to make your random adventurer into a competant raider and enhances the social aspect of the game.
Removing the CD from DMF would allow people that failed to grab it solo to actually form raids to get the buff instead of each solo player having a seperate timer waiting 4 hours to hope a raid is forming.
Chronoboons are fantastic, I can actually be productive and farm gold / boost guildies alts/ and otherwise play the game instead of finish raid, get wbuffs, log out till next raid to not waste wbuffs.
Last of all what the hell do you mean "You are not entitled to full WB for every combat encounter. " What does entitled have to do with anything. You put in the work to get wbuffs, thats not entitled at all. unless you mean raids expect you to have them, cause thats just common curtosy to come to raid as prepared as you can. Otherwise you are wasting the other 19 peoples time.
Eh they use this as an excuse, they know for a fact that this wasn’t the reason SoM failed. I say this as one of the few who played from start to finish.
It died because of the time in which it was released. They couldn’t have picked a worse time.
All the parse brain or “monkeys” or apes, whatever you guys call us, were actually happy in SoM to not have to deal with the annoyance of grabbing the buffs.
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parse brains. yes the majority of SoD players currently? it 100% was the reason SoD originally failed. When the team tells you what failed and why they wont do it again you can take that as a good idea of the problem. That definitely wasnt SoM’s only issue but it was 100% a big reason once people hit 60 it fell off massively in players
The only reason SoD is failing so bad is because of the amount of uncalled nerfs happening non-stop for no reason other than people crying out loud and game being “balanced” for pvp which we all know, it’s not balanced AT ALL.
World buffs has nothing to do with the failure of SoM. What actually hurt it was poor timing. Not many people wanted to run back 1x Vanilla right after Classic concluded going into TBC. Sounds like a cop-out to me personally.
It doesn’t really make sense to compare SoD to SoM considering how much different they are. SoM was plain Vanilla with some new raid mechanics but 100% the same as what everyone just played.
People on a vast majority don’t do this. Phase 1 and 2 when the buff was dropping every 10 seconds which is arguably easier to get then DMF didn’t do it. Rules shouldn’t be made because of less then .1% might do it in an annoying way.
Its a BS argument.
Im pretty sure the OG devs of vanilla said WBs were a Huge mistake to implement.
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SoD is declining because it’s hitting the Classic content wall. There’s nothing to do in the game after everyone’s gear is streamlined to BiS after a month.
I think there should be a poll … and just do whatever the community wants and call it a day. Ez solution
