Double BoP going away is a much needed change that should have happened years ago. But, it’s still not enough. Not nearly.
Lay on Hands needs to be disabled in PvP again or made to be affected by MS and dampening. No healer has any business full healing someone in a global 5 minutes into the game.
The forbearance reduction talent, Holy Reprieve, needs to become a 2 point talent, reducing the duration of forbearance by 5s per point.
The Divine Shield being usable with forbearance talent must be removed. That is a very serious contender for the dumbest change Blizzard has ever implemented to the game.
Divine Protection must be removed from the game, or at best reduced to a 10% damage reduction. If you messed up badly enough to have ran out of immunities or one shot heals, you deserve to die.
The mana cost of all healing abilities must be increased by by 5% and their healing must be nerfed by at least 10%.
Divine Steed should no longer be usable in PvP. This goes for every pally spec. They complain about being a “wheelchair class” enough to constantly be getting buffed. Let’s make that complaint real at least.
Freedom needs to work like Tiger’s Lust. Let it break roots and slows but not immune them.
And finally, grey out the “Join Battle” button for all Holy Paladins.
There. Now we’re at least close to getting this spec in line.
Yes I agree nerf Paladins.
and just becuz nerf dh.
Having a hard time zugzuging hpals, buddy?
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Almost no thinking at all was involved in creating this thread. The bubble with forbearance thing is questionable, so yep, almost no thinking lol.
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This post is taking it too easy on Hpals.
Need to make bubble a wall instead of immunity and make wings purgeable/spellstealable again
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Hpal is def good, but I feel like it’s not even that much better than MW/Disc/dragon and even then I’d take an hpal meta over rdruid meta every day of the week
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same tbh
i have a feeling i’d be even more annoyed by getting spam cloned than spam repentanced
I guess that hpal is really good against melees and I like to play with casters so maybe rdruid would actually feel a bit better to play against
hmmmmm
My bias is confused, I’m not sure what I would like to see. A mistweaver meta is absolutely out of the question too
maybe it’s time for the resto shaman and disc priest meta
fully this. I think I’d take any healer meta over rdruid, they really need to just deal with Shadowmeld issues which should help with the drinking in arena problem. And clone being the most annoying healer cc I think but I believe its getting its duration reduced in 11.1? Or only for boomy im not sure.
I cant wait to see people be upset over the potential hpriest meta next patch though. It has so many tools that make it very annoying to vs, the only reason it isn’t meta right now is because of its healing. Long spirit form immunity on a 2 min cd coupled with other ways to avoid CC (phase shift and divine ascension mostly) will make it very difficult to control. Curious to see how this plays out because the rework looks pretty insane.
Also I dont think hpal really needs to be hit harder at all. They gained spellwarding in exchange for losing double bop/double freedom, and will also have unbound freedom in their class tree (not on ptr currently but was in the notes) so it was a pretty decent trade. LS link is getting nerfed though and outside of that I dont think anything is actually wrong with hpal. easiest healer to cc and kill atm.
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Someone isn’t hitting their W key hard enough and decided to come whine about it.
And rework Hero talent Dawnlight, its AOE break stealth within 30 yard. Why the beam still follow even you vanish? And they can do it every 30s. Lets just remove all hero talent for all class in pvp.
Hpal and pres evoker are both significantly better than every other healer. It isn’t even close.
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They’re really not, dude.
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Paladins counter your spec. Maybe be a little less mongo with your karma so dont feed when it gets instabopped
Hpal is just disc priest with 3 immunities, easy mode death (sac), freedom and more cc (that’s spammable)
Braindead spec, has WAY to much of a safety net
Literally doesn’t even oom fast anymore
Lmao i didnt realize hpal had focused will and life cucoon sized absorbs, an offensive dispel, etc etc etc
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Nerf all paladins make MD fast cast again at zero mana cost. Make HOJ have a CD again they can stun every 5 seconds.
