Remove/lower titans grip dmg reduction penalty : ) from a Non warrior player

Except it will. Math has already been done that shows warriors will scale to the top on fights that are melee friendly with some exceptions on warlocks and rogues dk’s and feral’s back in the day. The mechanics of the class make scaling better in top and icc. Happened before back in the day also.

The math disagrees with you and the game functions different now than it did in 2009 with munching and the spell queue bug

Other classes perform better than they did due to addons/WA and just better player knowledge

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With all these changes, ICC is gonna be laughably easy and boring as hell within four lockouts. Good job everyone.

The fury warrior in my guild run is a beast, so I think their perfectly fine where they are, people are just coping cause they want the same treatment feral got. Blizzard will probably nerf the buff they gave and warriors will STILL complain, warriors are never happy with how they perform if they aren’t #1 in every scenario it’s the end of the world.

These “buff x, nerf y” posts are actually destroying a game that was revered as one of the best.

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What is it destroying

I think it’s fine trying to fix class rotations, bearweaving was just forcing paladins to use salv on druids as they where climbing threat way too fast, do I think the buff was more than blizzard expected? absolutely, do I think it’s going to get nerfed? yes.

But warriors losing their minds over this is ridiculous, if you know how to play warrior you can pump, the warrior in my guild is the perfect example of this, he’s a chad.

Your anecdote doesn’t tell us anything

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Neither does this thread, it’s just another warrior using an alt he never finished leveling trying to get a buff for warriors.

I said that already; the game. If that’s your way of asking me to elaborate, sure.

We (people who played Wrath originally) wanted Wrath classic because we enjoyed the game it was. Those who did not originally play wanted to enjoy what they missed.

However, along the way many people lost sight of that, focusing simply on the character they play and it’s interaction with their ego. Now we have nerfed death knights, which to be fair, was possibly necessary to avoid class stacking. However, this opened a can of worms; retribution, feral, and likely an upcoming warrior change due to incessant class balance feedback on a 14 year old game.

In my opinion, Wrath classic would have been significantly better if it were just released as is. People just want everything packaged specifically for them. Among a mass of billions, that’s just not possible.

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It was never OG wrath with cata client and final patch balancing

You should’ve paid more attention

Death Knight nerfs weren’t severe enough tbh, and given the fact that the justification for Feral Buffs was “Ferals weren’t meant to weave this much in original WotLK,” Blizzard should’ve just went and put that ahistorical nonsense Morb spec into the ground.

Frankly, launching WotLK with the balancing of the last patch, considering how wildly some classes fluctuated, was enough to spoil the original WotLK experience.

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youve trolled and spread misinformation in other posts, but to address this point, youre right, not every class needs to be S tier

the classes that should be towards the bottom are druids. Feral druids have insane utility, b rez, innervate, quick OT, bleed AND crit buff, etc. Also rets have insane utility. Both are good options for sitting in last place.

Fury warrior is not, they dont have even half that utility. If they dont bring damage, they don’t get brought to raid.

Warriors is the only class that actually fit blizzards terms for wotlk buffs. They said a class that isnt worth bringing to raid they’d look at buffing. Well, feral and ret had insane utility, and the same or even at times more damage than fury, and both got buffed, feral right up to the #1 spot without having its utility nerfed. Only logical thing is to buff warriors to be better than ferals at this point.

Unless you want warriors getting battle rez and innervate, then maybe you can have them tie with feral after their buffs.

no one expected ferals to beat them by phase 2 and then massively beat them by phase 4, but with the stupid buffs they gave that is what we now have rofl. (obviously filter the logs to not show hodir and vezax, duh)

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Precisely.

Why? You’re a level 50 Gnome …

They can’t ignore it forever. Blizz brought this on themselves.

It’s sad, even I know warriors that have left the game due to this and I’ve considered it myself.

lmfao
I’ve said the truth that you don’t like.
I haven’t said a single lie. All my numbers come from logs and wowhead logs recaps.

Warriors are fine. They dont need a buff. If they get one, sure. I don’t care. But it’s not warranted.

You’ve lied, you’ve used old statistics to fit your wishes of nobody questioning the overbuff to feral druids.

Um, no.
I’ve used to-date logs on classic.warcraftlogs.com to look at post-buff feral performance.
And I used last week’s logs recap on wowhead to see fury performance vs all other specs.

You just don’t like that I’m disagreeing with yall.
And no, I’m not feral.

Feral buff was overtuned and ridiculous, given druid was buffed to now have both of its dps specs above both warriors dps specs.

There’s no defence for it, there’s no stat you can show me. You are being ridiculous for defending it.