Personally I think it’s great players can turn gold into bnet balance. But it should also work the same way from other games. Currency from diablo can be turned into bnet balance and so on.
Other companies have universal currencies that let you spread the love to their other games. Like Ubisoft has a reward system for playing that can be used for discounts on other games.
I like these kind of ideas, but it can’t all come from WoW.
Meanwhile on Steam, i can do the same thing with certain games (not even owned by valve like Unturned, it’s a huge list even.) and buy whatever game i want to out of the pool of THOUSANDS of games from different devs, and publishers.
…yeeeeeeeeeeah… Tell me how great WoW tokens are when all i got access is Blizzard games and Call of Duties (Joy) with a rare Non-CoD from activision.
I bought D4 ultimate for my main account and D4 standard as a gift for my brother’s account for gold when token price crashed to 137k. Got it dirty cheap.
I do hope your last quote is your own head. If not to clarify, I didn’t say it’s completely fine.
It’s really simple honestly, if someone doesn’t like tokens and the myriad of what people use them for then don’t participate in use of them.
And I report them everytime get them , which I really don’t understand why other than I don’t go to those sites and use their services.
Do I think they should be used for carries. Not really but the user pays what?, 20 bucks for them .After that it’s their choice what to do with them. I’m certainly not going to pay for a carry and risk getitng ripped off in the end, which we see complaints about.
But with that said if players use it for their looms,gbanks,buying tons of mats,putting twards account sub time now that doesn’t bother me. At least with upgrading heirlooms, it’s no real big risk in it compared to trust some rando to actually show up for the paid carry.
I like wow tokens. It’s more efficient for me to earn the money to buy them than make gold myself. This lends me extra time to do more engaging content.
They’ll always be higher price at the end of a wow season. A few weeks into 10.1 they will crater again. Buy a bunch then if you’re using it for game time.
Presently though I’m enjoying their 215k yield rather than like 140k price or whatever low amount I remember seeing them at one point.
Cool story, go play on steam then. I’m sure that massive list of AAA games is why you are here.
The feeling’s mutual with your “Alot of players use them as supplemental gold for things such as maxxing out heirlooms or dropping a good chunk into guild banks for repairs, as an example.” comment. In that being, i do hope you thinking this is a valid justification to say “It’s not all that bad!” is your own head.
Implication. Given the context of how you said your comment here, you’re positioning it as if it’s completely fine here. If you didn’t say it’s completely fine, then… what are you saying?
Even if you’re saying “It’s not all that bad, yea there’s some things i dislike but it’s not all that bad”, i still disagree with this either way.
That’s not exactly a valid counter argument, because as with all advantage paying Microtransactions, paying for them will get you… the advantage of those who didn’t pay up. Even for something small like guild repairs as you’ve mentioned. It just seems like at that point, Blizzard created a problem to try to sell the solution.
I get that Goldselling was rampant in the old days, but A, being the very thing you are against isn’t any better, and B, we still have those. I’ve been mailed by a goldseller more then once in the recent months. I even had to alert my Discord server about that.
…Weird sentence structure, but i got that you report them everytime and you don’t use their services. 
I mean that.
Well this isn’t just a matter of only carries, as you’ve expanded upon earlier. Heck, the person wouldn’t theoretically need carries and just buy things off the AH, being gear and etc.
…Yeah, 20 bucks to gain an advantage in a video game instead of playing the game.
…So why be okay with WoW tokens if it enables people to get carries and get ripped off? I mean, isn’t that worse then just getting carries?..
again, 20 bucks to gain an advantage.
And i know to you that sounds silly when i put it like that, but you’ve listed this as a thing that is possible to do so with tokens… do you not consider that gaining an advantage if you’re paying $20 to make your leveling experience better in some capacity?
No, i’m saying WoW should improve upon their own Token system and take notes from Steam and give us more then just their own games. Or be apart of Steam.
If buying other AB’s blizzard games with WoW Tokens sounds cool to you, then why not have it where WOW can buy literally ANY game with WoW gold?
Think about it. Using 1 game’s currency for 40 games, vs 100’s (Actually more then 100, i’ve counted) of game’s currency or marketplace for 10000’s of the games.
You think Don’t Starve Together is a AAA game? 
Or American Truck Simulator?
Or A Hat in Time?
Or Subnaturica?
Or Unturned?
…You didn’t took a look at that list i’ve linked, didn’t you? I don’t know how you’ve missed it, but i’l point it out just in case.
You whole tirate sounds silly. Leveling heirlooms with tokens isn’t pay to win. It’s to level that gear, it doesn’t give an advantage compared to carries when it come to heirlooms.
At this point I’d be hard pressed to find a game that doesn’t have some sort of token sales anymore…
That’s not exactly a counter to everything i’ve said, that’s just you giving up.
Nobody said anything about “Pay to win” until you have. What i’ve said isn’t the same thing as you subjectively think.
Except it actually does, because now you don’t have to replace that gear later on and can keep it to the end. Having it until 59 or 69 is extremely advantageous. If you think it’s not, then you must think Heirlooms is useless. Which in that case, what would be the point in spending gold in them if it’s useless or serves no advantages?
If it’s useful to you, then you think there’s an advantage to be had by paying gold. Therefore, my point about it being paying for advantage stands.
Heck, it was your point to begin with, considering you’ve listed it first actually. 
…Are you trying to say you’re now wrong for saying that? Because i’m going by what you’ve given here.
Your logic here makes no sense when given an actual think. But then again you’ve yet to actually say anything about my comment and just given up by saying “Ugh! imma call your arguments “tirate” and silly, because i can’t be BOTHERED to refute any of this!”…
While I agree with you 
it cheapens everything. Titles and mounts don’t mean as much because you can just buy them now.
You notice how quick blizz is to ban someone for saying something inappropriate? Lickity split! But when it comes time to remove gold carry people they don’t do nothing. That’s because tokens and carry groups are a huge part of wow economy now.
You remove tokens and people can’t sell in game carry’s like they used to. Tokens are a huge cash cow!! And in game gold carry folks are just as important. This is Ions vision for wow. Pay to win.
Or skip a couple Starbucks a month and pay for your sub?
People make me laugh when they say something entirely driven by supply and demand shouldn’t be at the price it is.
Based on what? Personal feelings? That’s not how economy works.
You honestly think D4 will be a trash heap yet you play WoW…Amazing
Other than those who want to play for ‘free’ I really dont understand the token much at all.
Is it to compete with illegal gold sellers? Try to run them out of business?
It allows people with a lot of free time and/or AH know-how to play for free while allowing people with less free time due to working a lot to buy gold legally.
Outside delusional purist nonsense its a win-win all around.
I have provided plenty so go troll someone else
I was being sarcastic about AAA games
I don’t think Blizzard needs to have a massive list of games to make the token to bnet account worth it. They just need to have the same option to turn currency from other games into bnet balance as WoW does. Or something of that effect.
Apparently trying to debate in a civil manner with you is trolling now. Shame how you decided to backdown the moment somebody has shown a bit of critical thinking to the things you’ve said.
Still a rather nonsensical comment, but i digress.
Why not?
I mean, imagine WoW Gold buying Assassin’s Creed, or buying Elden Ring, or … litteraly anything off of steam. I honestly don’t have too much of an interest in other Blizzard games, and out of the activision games i’m interested in, one, being Tony Hawk. ISN’T ON THERE. 
Tbh, it’s not on Steam either, it’s on Epic games. But having that, along with tons of other games that Activision had over the years,decades even, would be a darn good start of making the wow tokens worth it.
Sure. The more the merrier i suppose. But how would that make it better? We still have 40 games in total to pick from.
so did i read this right op hates when players use the in-game gold
to buy a “free game”
lets look at csgo if you get lucky you can get “free game” just by playing games
Except, CSGO is f2p. And even if it requires $5 or something to “activate” your account in order to use the marketplace and sell things and etc, you still paid way less then ya did on WoW (which is at minimum $40 let’s say), and for more options mind i add.
Also, it’s not just CS:GO, but you can do this in TF2, and 100+ others as well.
Also, trading cards is a thing so… there’s that too.
