Blizzard hear our plea
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please Blizz hear it!!!
#removevoidfrom
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#removevoidform
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Did we really need another thread? Of the outspoken minority saying remove voidform?
why so bitter, If we are the minority then let the majority speak.
you don’t have tor read this and you can easily get of the forums. so bye
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I’ve played shadow since wolk I’ve enjoyed every iteration of it. But the outspoken minority that is #removevoidform. Is a minority. The majority of the wow playerbase doesn’t ever come to the forums. So you’ll always be a minority.
Now I enjoy voidform I enjoy the pace. I enjoy watching my apperation army attacking a huge pull. I only went lock for 8.3 untill recently because the guild I was in
Needed a lock for gate and summons.
Numerical changes or small changes to abilities to help mitagate the ramp required for stuff you overgear is an easy fix and yes some borrowed power too.
And I have a sub. Therefore I can be on this forum.
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Because it fits your narrative and agenda. You do not have proof of that so the same argument can be turn at you. Especially when the game is going through a content drought and corruption going away in pre-patch. there is no reason to play live.
why not go create a thread for all the few “majority” who enjoy it. rather than coming here and asking us to shut up. Why are you so pressed about us expressing our opinion?
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If you look at the alpha class feedback forums and compare priest vs all the other classes, you will notice that priest has by far and large the most player supported feedback yet we are one of the least if not the least to get changes.
So I ask you, if the void form naysayers are the minority then why do the other classes with less representation on the SL alpha forums get more communication and changes then priest? Are they a minority by your logic? Why are they getting any attention at all when we haven’t gotten much if anything?
The fact is, the majority of the priest community don’t like Void Form and you can see that in the Alpha class feedback forums.
If it was not the case then surely there would be a positive post about Void Form that would have more likes then the negative posts.
The only other option is that people that like Void Form has no reason to come to the forum and therefore there voices wont be heard and they might loose out on upcoming changes.
But I find that hard to believe as that logic doesn’t transfer into the action/reaction you see from the other class feedback forums.
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Except for Preach, who is orthogonal to your enjoyment. He’s stated several times that the devs need to take a serious look at shadow priest because it feels dead on arrival in SL.
Preach has more clout than you or I - or anyone for that matter - in the priest community. So you’re wrong.
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I enjoy Preach and I can tell he knows quite a bit and I do put weight into his comments.
However…
You shouldn’t discount or praise someone based on WHO they are. Only on the VALUE of what they do / say. So everyone’s voice should have the opportunity to be heard. and judged not by who said it but by the content of what is said.
We don’t want witch burning do we?
We don’t want deity worshipers do we?
Lets keep that in mind.
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True. Except your deity is the “majority” in your argument. I’m just appealing to an authority different from yours.
Majority?
My arguments are not based on the “masses” they are based on the “functionality” breakdown of mechanics. The way I see it just happens to be what a lot of others see as well.
So just to be clear, I don’t draw my conclusions from hear say and follow others like a sheep lol.
Fair enough. For record I agree with you about void form, it’s just a pedantic difference of how we came to our conclusion about void form.
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It’s incredible how every content creator, high level spriest players on the class discord, almost any platform that has wow forums, and the priest alpha feedback forums, are all saying the exact same thing, that voidform is a flawed mechanic that is completely reliant on borrowed power systems and that is only relevant in a small portion of the game while having a severe lack of talent options and playstyle altercations.
You’re right though, it must be the vocal minority.
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Blizzard: “It’s too late guys. You should’ve given feedback earlier in alpha!” 
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And yet, almost everyone agrees that it works in content that you don’t over gear.
Which blizzard knows, it’s what they stated in the dev plauge post. Although I agree it looks to have missed the mark. But it’s a numbers tuning issue there. They can still make vf work for SL. Yes it will have some borrowed power requirements. Just like everything else will be balanced around it.
And as far as preach goes. Im a sub to his YouTube. He’s eu so I don’t watch his stream just do to hours difference. But he looks at the game from a super high end min/max setting. Litterally world first push ect. Where 99.9% of the playerbase is not in. Shadow works for every content in the game if you don’t overgear it massively. And if you do then you have to change your playstyle slightly it’s less about vf stacks and more about dotting the world and kiting it to the next group of mobs becuase it dies so fast.
But hey let’s litterally fill everything single thread up with remove voidform even though blizzard just said they’re keeping it. Instead of working with giving feedback on how it plays that’s constructive. Delete vf isn’t constructive. Yes there have been posts that have decent suggestions. But at the end of the day the majority of players who love the class are going to play whatever the devs toss out at it. And not come to the forums wether that be shadow weaving to orbs to vf. They will adapt look up a guide and play it. Becuase it’s there character.
I’m just tired litterally every post saying remove voidform. It’s a cool mechanics that has flaws but those flaws make the spec fun to me.
Things that would make spec more enjoyable would be shadowmend turned back to flash heal ect. Not just delete and revert to mop. As most want.
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I actually was there for Preach’s stream where he explicitly said VF does not work in world content. So that’s a lie
again you can create your own thread and don’t have to read ours.
I’m glad your enjoying it but we aen’t so why are you trying to silence us? We are going to express our opinion whether it be a couple of words or a whole essay just like you can.
it’s always the same with people who like VF. You come up to our forums and try to shut us up and force us to like Vf because it “fulfills your spec fantasy” or " feels fun to you" well it doesn’t to us and you cant force us to like it.
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… I dont even know where to begin with how wrong your entire argument is. The best part is, you have already been proven to be flat out lying in half your argument.
And then you throw out the " It’s a cool mechanics that has flaws but those flaws make the spec fun to me." comment to finish it off…
Good lord.
You are going to go with the argument that something has flaws so its clearly its working right and fun for you.
Void form is horribly designed. Its a mechanic that requires a ramp up, in a game thats mostly about burst. Its a mechanic that is entirely designed around changing playstyle when inside it, and yet does almost nothing to accomplish that. Its a mechanic that forces certain specs and builds to make it even useful. Its a mechanic that intentionally forces you to weave back out of it to get the biggest power bump making it seem pointless to weave into it in the first place outside its initial generator. Its quite simply, a HORRIBLY designed system.
Its not the minority but the majority of Spriests who actually play the game with any level of skill or consistency. And those are who matter. Because the majority you speak of will play WHATEVER the system. They are not who the game is designed around.
So Spriestesis, you need to rethink your argument because its flawed, full of lies, and lacking any substance.
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We encourage those who like voidform to post #keepvoidform. If we’re such a go#d#mn minority, then it shouldn’t be tough to bring out at least as many of those to counter it.
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#removevoidform
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