Restrictive systems like this are just trash. Get rid of it, it serves no purpose other than to throttle players for no reason. There is literally not a single good reason to have this.
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I mean we both know people would endlessly grind mythics to be max geared in 24 hours
Then instantly complain there’s nothing to do
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Like the people who have already cleared the hardest content in the game?
People who are gonna grind are gonna grind
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No, S4 was a meme, let’s not repeat it.
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This. I’m all for having a cap until mythic is clear then open it up. Likewise, drop the weekly raid lockout on anything under mythic and let raiders upgrade loot 12/12 just like mythic plus.
You just explained why it exists. It’s there to throttle progression.
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Like 99.9% of even heroic guilds don’t have heroic cleared.
The valor cap isn’t for the RWF.
It’s for everyone else. Heroic raiding is still a thing that needs to be important. Valor cap removal makes it irrelevant.
S4 was a meme where nothing but Fated Mythic and M+ mattered, it was dumb and we’re not doing that.
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They tried this once, it wasn’t a good thing.
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S4 was great, I don’t know why anyone thinks it wasn’t. Low keys were full of high io players farming valor and any new toon could get a quick key from HoA or mists then list it. You could be in quest greens, post a valor farm key and sit back and soak great and valor. No one gave a crap about your ilvl and if you stacked the groups with your armor class you didn’t even have to ask for trades, they would just dump it on you at the end of the run.
Start your own groups and list them as chill if you want like minded players. Otherwise, let us grind. We’re still going to be playing the game when we max out.
It was a meme where the only gearing meta that mattered was farm items in +15s and then farm +2s for VP unless you’re Mythic raiding.
Again, it was a fun season because of that. Also, removing the lockout on heroic and allowing upgrades to that gear like mythic plus would give the heroic guilds a bit of a leg up with progression and make them not feel like they have to run mythics for fill in gear.
It wasn’t fun because of that. In fact, it was pretty poor raiding wise, and there was nothing fun about spamming +2s for VP in M+ either.
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Literally the entire SL meta was doing +15’s for vaults. The only difference was you had more geared people doing lower keys, and subsequently more people doing lower keys in general making it easier to gear up.
This is a weird take imo, everyone I’ve played with liked not having a valor cap.
Early season ? No.
Like right now, where Heroic Vault matters a whole lot. Because VP isn’t uncapped. Those Heroic 402s to 408s are huge and no Great vault will change that.
facts.
sl s.4 was the best just because no valor cap. always pushing always having fun. i miss it.
It was poor for raiding cause there wasn’t a new one.
No, it was poor for raiding because raiding didn’t matter outside of Mythic.
Running +2s isn’t pushing.
i was doing 23s-24s. still not pushing depending who you ask but yeah. 2s is a bit off the mark heh
i kept going even after getting portals, is what i meant.
VP cap doesn’t matter for that.
2s is what people were using for VP. Since there’s no cap and VP is equal for all key levels.
This has been true for 3 xpacs now. It’s not a good argument.