Remove quest item objective from timewalking raid quests

Anyone else here got denied on the Black Temple timewalking quest this week because of bugged loot or a raid leader kicking them right before Illidan died when you did nothing wrong?

There is a major flaw in these quests that need to be addressed or they will continue to be denied or abused. Customer support is no help at all with this problem and something needs to change because of it.

I suggest that we should remove the quest item pick up entirely on timewalking raid quests and only have the kill credit be the objective. Then there is little to no chance on players missing out on finishing these quests because being loot locked does not matter for a good old fashioned kill objective.

Everyone please spread the word in support’s suggestions to hopefully make this game just a bit better because this is simply unacceptable.

nope not once have i had this issue ever

You probably did something wrong to get kicked, and you wouldn’t have gotten credit if you were kicked and not present for the killing blow.

Also Timewalking Raids function like post-SoO raids so you can always rejoin another group (likely a Illidan Skip Group) to kill Illidan again as you are only loot locked not instance locked.

No flaws.

No I’m serious. The raid leader kicked just about everyone right before the end roleplay and loot locked us all when we didn’t even get to kill the boss. Now I don’t know if they were trolling or thought they could get better chance at loot on PERSONAL LOOT? First raid failed. I went into a 2nd one and got the kill credit but couldn’t loot the boss at all because the game thought I already killed it the first time when I clearly didn’t. Now I couldn’t loot the quest item at all and customer support failed me to simply give me the item. I and many other players essentially got punished from some random pug leader for doing NOTHING WRONG.

no, neither of those things are common.

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Sounds like bad game design. It should have mailed you the quest item as it does any loot you wuld have gotten

Nope. No Postmaster mail either.

Funnily enough, I think this system is currently bugged. There has been a lot of dungeon loot I completely missed out on, and when I do get mailed something that I lost, it’s usually just the it mailing the message of the mail itself as the item that I lost.

This is extremely rare, nothing will change because of a fringe scenario that rarely ever happens.

It seems the lead was just being a jerk, you can report him but that’s it. Blizzard won’t give you loot etc. As they never had, even in cases of Ninja looting back in the day they would remove the loot from the Ninja.

When was the RP, the Start of the Fight RP or End of the Fight RP? If it was the start of the fight RP this is a bug and should be reported as you should have been able to go and kill Illidian for loot.

If it was the Defeat RP, you are loot locked because any loot you would get from personal loot would have been mailed to you by the postmaster.

If you only got a currency (timewarped badges for example) you would get a message from a NPC saying the missing currency has been given.

It was at the end of the fight. He kicked us all in phase 2-3 and the game then kicked us all out of the instance with no timer. Now because of how this works. Since the fight wasn’t a wipe the game still treats it as us still being in the fight. Then the game loot locks us because the remaining “group” got the kill even when we weren’t even there in the instance to get said kill. One player single handily ruined everyone’s week on denying us our quest item loot.

Report that player, Blizz probably would take action against them.

This is however such a rare case that a change won’t happen.

I unfortunately missed out on my chance to report because the whole situation happened so fast that is took some time to process what just happened and also one of the players had a special character in their name so yeah that was a hinderance.

The quest is to kill Illidan.

If you didn’t kill Illidan, you didn’t complete the quest.

It’s not a bug. It’s literally that simple.

It has 2 objectives. 1: Kill timewalking Illidan. 2: Loot his body for the quest item. You can’t loot the quest item if you’re loot locked to him. Postmaster apparently doesn’t send the quest item in the mail either.