Prob gonna get loads of flack but genuinely whats even the point of pvp gearing? Its a heavily neglected side of the game, gearing is the most unfun part of it, other games you are stat balanced and ready to dive in instantly, stat priority is greater than individual choice, not choosingvstat prio is literally just neglecting urself a few % in overall dmg/heals/dmg reduction and whatever else. Pvp is a side thing most only do for the weekly, best believe in the first week you are getting inspected in that blitz and if you dont have 5 pieces of epic pvp gear, ur team will let you know(if ur a healer dont even queue up) like why add this anti new player hurdle to a mode thats already pretty scarce on players? Im not against the pvp mogs and stuff but like conq cap is just stupid, conq farming is just crate farming except theres no real pvp in wpvp, just rdy tracker and ppl leave raid once they cap during the weekly timegate. I have a few toons in last seasons honor gear, i enjoyed the toons but do i really wanna grind like 12k honor against premades in bgs and ebgs? Or do i just wait till compstomp and farm honor efficiently against bots so i can then “enjoy the pvp” once im in greens. Again gear is a hurdle in wow pvp and its just not in games like league, dota and etc.
Why not open the floodgates to ppl who don’t usually pvp and make it simpler for those who do
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At the start of the season your pvp gear is capped.
When you win 1 bg you get items used to craft gear. It makes it so you can craft your rings and neck (ilvl 723 in pvp) which is a huge amount of your secondaries and you have control over which stats you get. Then you should be able to get your bloody tokens to buy gear from doing world quests. You can get 2-3 pieces of bloody tokens gear depending on which ones you buy.
Fill in the rest of your slots with honor gear and you’re good to go to do rated pvp.
And if you want you can join a crate farming group to get honor and conquest.
Next week we will also get free pvp weapons by earning 2500 conquest in the season.
You can also increase tier pieces ilvl in pvp with items that cost conquest to save you a catalyst charge.
Gearing in pvp is wayyyy easier now.
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I vote to keep PvP gear. The 1 minute trinket on use is absurd for 1 minute cooldown classes like survival. Without PvP we wouldn’t have 1 minute trinkets 
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PvP gearing has improved but there’s honestly no reason to have a gear treadmill in PvP at all.
Participation would be a lot higher if freebie sets were given out and could be equipped in a secondary slot only active in bgs.
Let people choose a stat priority for each piece and call it a day.
Either that or just let people use pve gear and raise the pvp ilevel of all characters to a set standard.
Let talents and specializations change the overall build.
Anything else hurts participation and makes things far more complicated than they need to be.
Leave the gear treadmill to pve.
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legion tried no pvp gear, participation plummeted.
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My biggest issue right now is messing with some of my higher rated (1800+) toons on blitz.
If a player gets ONE win to start the season, they can be thrown into a high level game. Lots of time those players have crappy gear choices, no crafteds, sometimes hardly the bare minimum. At that point you are down a player or the rip for the most part and it is an instant loss.
I would prefer for a more homogenized experience, rather than a roulette on who gets the moron with no gear.
Yes because they didn’t do it right.
You can’t just remove PVP gear entirely. What you can do however is make item level mean nothing in PvP and everyone gets a template applied. However you still offer the gear as a transmog set along with the titles and mounts like always. This Template system would only happen in randoms and 2s. 3s and RBGs would still have gear like normal.
This is the approach I would take to PVP I’m not sure it’s a good one because I haven’t PVPd since BFA. But that’s just my two cents
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I have always said, the reason why MMO PvP fails is because of gear. PvPers will say “oh its easy to gear”, but in reality its not, for people like me.
I do not have the patience to blow all my CDs and watch the guy just type /shrug, throw a single healing ability, and then blow his cds and overkill me.
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im constantly told if i dont like the game dont play it and why play it if you dont? i think this applies here
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It is. You just put forth zero effort.
This has already been explained to you multiple times.
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And people wonder “wheres everyone in warmode”.
And again, I have told YOU this before, I DID put in the effort when I tried PvP. Why are you constantly attacking people instead of the argument? Its always “Your bad, your not trying” instead of actually engaging with the arguments being made.
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I dont care about war mode , failed experiment, the more populated faction feels safe to have it on and the underpowered faction doesnt. As soon as you get stopped from doing a quest hub you turn it off. The rewards were never good enough, i prefer PVP servers to warmode.
Wow is a lobby game world pvp been dead for years
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PvP would be way more fun if everyone had the same gear. Wasn’t there a mode like that once upon a time?
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How do people even get PvP gear?
Buy it with gold? Do PvP in PVE gear first and slowly get PvP gear or what?
theres a crafted pvp green set , then you buy honor gear with honor.
I know this answer.
It’s so Arena players don’t have to Mythic Raid for their gearz.
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this, and if i ever have to do mythics for gear again i will quit
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Which is like telling someone to go into a +5 mythic with leveling greens.
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That’s fair, and why I gave it up after doing it for over a decade and why I tell every new player I meet not to bother with it.
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