Remove pathfinder

THIS isnt about what KIND of flight exists in the game.
THIS is about FLIGHT ITSELF supposedly making the world ‘smaller’ and less dangerous.
Skyriding does EXACTLY the same thing as steady flight in BOTH regards…allows you to get around faster and over landblocks…and lets you fly over the danger.

PF serves NO purpose anymore…

There’s still no flying in Tanaan Jungle … and there probably won’t be in any new zones or expansions

When Warlords of Draenor first hit, some fans were surprised to discover that even upon reaching the new level cap of 100, they couldn’t fly with their air-based mounts in the new zones. Initially Blizzard expected to patch in flying at some point, but now it has changed its mind.

“Having looked at how flying has played out in the old world in the last couple of expansions, we realized that while we were doing it out of this ingrained habit after we introduced flying in The Burning Crusade, it actually detracted from gameplay in a whole lot of ways,” Hazzikostas explains. “While there was certainly convenience in being able to completely explore the world in three dimensions, that also came at the expense of gameplay like targeted exploration, like trying to figure out what’s in that cave on top of a hill and how do I get up there.”

“It made the world feel in many ways much smaller”

Hazzikostas gives an example: Before flying was introduced to World of Warcraft, if you got a quest to rescue a prisoner from an enemy encampment, it would play out a certain way. Players would need to fight their way through the camp. After flying, players could just fly into the center of camp, land on top of the hut where the prisoner is, free him and fly out.

“It made the world feel in many ways much smaller,” he says.

Originally, Blizzard took out flying in Warlords of Draenor as an experiment, and Hazzikostas says he would have bet “slightly better than even money at the time” that they were going to bring it back eventually. But as they played the expansion and watched others play it, they discovered that they liked the game better without flying.

“The world feels larger, feels more dangerous,” he says. “There’s more room for exploration, for secrets, for discovery and overall immersion in the world. At this point, we feel that outdoor gameplay in World of Warcraft is ultimately better without flying. We’re not going to be reintroducing the ability to fly in Draenor, and that’s kind of where we’re at going forward.”

Hazziokostas confirms that this direction includes future expansions, though he doesn’t discount the possibility of adding flight options in to specific expansion ideas or zones that would benefit from it. In general, though, he believes that exploration in Blizzard’s massive world “works better and feels better in our view when you’re doing it from the ground.”

He also promises that Blizzard will continue working to improve its network of taxi flight paths in the game to prevent any major frustration from this change: “The goal is to maximize convenience in getting from point a to point but retaining as much of the gameplay and depth as possible once you do get to that point.”

https://www.polygon.com/2015/5/22/8645293/world-of-warcraft-no-flying-tanaan-jungle-warlords-of-draenor-mmo-pc-blizzard

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Yep, everything he said is easily disproven. It’s been done out of spite.

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My best guess is that it has to have something to do with trying to put more barriers on bots to be honest. There is genuinely no other reason I can see for continuing to keep it this way other than that.

Its been proven bots dont care and are ahead of the game

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This is true, but how difficult is it for them to try to bot with new flying instead of old flying? Maybe it takes more resources, maybe it’s more expensive. It’s not about “bots can do this, so don’t try anything that doesn’t 100% stop them”. It’s more about trying to slow them down, or maybe botting with new flying makes it easier to catch them compared to old flying, etc.

Unocking pathfinder is tight!

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Do PF or don’t fly.
Those are your option.

Your ONLY options

They made it easy to the point of being pointless, lol.

Pretty much anyone who’s been 80 for 30 mins and wants it, has it already.

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They (Probably Ion) wants us to experience the main story campaign in their own vision first before having the ability to utilize steady flying.

As someone with autoimmune conditions I sometimes prefer steady flying over Skyriding depending on flare ups, so I don’t think moving forward they should put something that could be deemed as an accessibility feature behind an achievement even if it is rather simple to unlock.

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It is so easy to unlock in TWW. There is no time gating or any thing difficult about it this expansion. Hit 80, finish up the current campaign, explore the four zones and presto you have it unlocked. I hit 80 late last night and was able to unlock it in about an hour this afternoon.

They kill me with that bots crap. Bots dont NEED to fly at all lol. They are just as capable of ground hoofing it and farming nodes all day long anyway.
Blizzard would have be NAIVE to actually believe that changing flight was gonna stop even a single bot from doing what they do lol

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yeah, we get it Fonzy…and THATS the point…PF is MUCH easier this time around…and if we KEEP harping on it, maybe Ion and crew will finally let this dead horse die.

There…was that easy enough to comprende?

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How much “content” did you have to do to unlock skygliding?

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lol.
Yeah, I just put that sort on ignore.
theyre just here to ride that high horse for all to see, and that REALLY just annoys me to death.
They dont NEED to be in these threads rubbing salt into any of this, but they seem to get some perverse kick in doing it.
They arent worthy of your energy or time investment.

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:point_up: :point_up: :point_up: :point_up:
Exactly.

They say…“we need pathfinder for…”

no…ya dont son…because IF it were NEEDED Ion wouldnt have DEMEANED it so much this time around. lol.

They wanted flight gone so the world was ‘bigger’ and more dangerous.
When the base tossed fits about their removing flight, they ‘compromised’ with pathfinder for that very reason, so Ion and crew claimed, so you still had to deal with the bigger, more dangerous world until the expansion was pretty much over.

NOW FLIGHT EXISTS DAY ONE…dragonriding and now Skyriding…so NONE of that applies anymore.

Pathfinder is 1000% unneeded for the very purposes Ion CLAIMED it was needed for when he offers ANY version of flight on day one.

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If you are able to use dynamic flying.
I think a lot of players just forget that they only did it in this short amount of time because they used dynamic flying.
Tell me how long it takes only using ground mounts and then try to convince me it’s super easy again.

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Dynamic flying even makes it way harder to detect if a bot is using speed hacks. So no, it’s not about the bots. Not at all. Never was. That’s just a thing players come up with to justify the whole pathfinder crap.

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everything is pointless , it’s a game

Do you plan to do the campaign?

Because if you do, it’s easy.

Another option is to not buy TWW. I chose this one.
I have enough stuff to do in older content.

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