Remove Lust/Hero from Mages & Hunters

So, as I understand it, Blizzard is getting rid of scrolls which “duplicate” the Fortitude, Arcane Intellect and Attack Power (Battle Shout) buffs. They’re getting rid of the Engineering battle-rez. With the idea of returning to an arrangement consistent with how things were, several expansions ago.

In the spirit of consistency, I suggest that they remove Bloodlust/Heroism analogues as well - these are the province of the Shaman. Something which made Shaman unique and desired for groups. Remove Drums. Remove this ability from Hunters and Mages.

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I feel like if they are going to take it away from a profession they need to add these buffs back to classes in some capacity. Class utility has always been something we had and it’s diminished drastically over each xpac. Legion it felt like we got all these neat abilities from the artifact but lost class utility. Like druids losing Mark of the Wild from WoD and before… it’s been a staple forever and it was removed then turned into a pvp talent. Weird decisions all over the place in class design and utilities.

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I think it would be nice for druids to regain Wild. Why not? It’s the great rollback.

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Gift of the wild would do what though? It’s had several iterations over the years and it’s currently a PvP thing.

Still think LotP/Moonkin Aura need to be a thing again.

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No, In fact give lust to Warriors.

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Well,thank you very much in proven shamans want it all. Tell me this what do you want to replace what is taking away then.

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Shamans mostly want back what has been lost from their identity and toolkit.

Like Gust of Wind. Removed because it was too similar to Blink… Somehow

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Nah. Remove it from shamans. May as well ol’ yeller them.

Actually no, just delete shamans. I’m tired of seeing this thread pop up from time to time.

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And they want to take away tools mages and hunter had so you guys wantt it all,to tank ,to be the main lust givers in raid and dungeons but you can’t say what you want to replace it with.

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I agree they should give bm hunters back their battle rez…

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I’d rather have one of the best CDs on more than one class for content with smaller groups than feel like I have to search for a shaman. I say this as someone who’s going to main a shammy in SL.

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They’re removing engi Rez? That sucks. It was. Interesting and “flavorful”

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Shaman have lost plenty without any being replaced with an alternative.

Bloodlust/Heroism has been a Shaman spell since BC, then in Cataclysm Mages and Hunters got a lust spell too.

Losing Identity is quite a sore point for a lot of Shaman players. I don’t agree that Lust should be removed from Hunters or Mages, but damn I would like my class to not lose out to other classes in a identity war

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…but I dont have lust or hero…I have Time Warp. Also, mages have one spec, DPS. It makes sense to give them a spell that can temporarily boost that. Shamans have THREE specs. You are plug and play for whatever a group needs. Any class that has all 3 specs shouldnt be asking to take over every other class talent so they can be super awesome while everyone else sucks.

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Here’s the issue. No identity. Removing talents from other classes and giving them to Shamans exclusively will not solve this. Better to rebuild shammies from scratch.

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It’s that same thing just named different. They should just ask ion to change it so they can nerf every class but theirs.“Look mom ,look what I can do”

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Shamans can’t be tanks (sadly) so they can’t be “whatever a group needs”. Just sayin.

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Ok, while “technically” correct, weve all been in plenty of pug groups that show otherwise!

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No one said they couldn’t be because this is fantasy ,magic and element abound can fit into anything in the game. I know the shaman want to feel important but just come out and say remove a talent is not going to work well with other classes.

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Removing lust/hero from other classes is a bad idea tbh.
Especially if they nerf shaman into the ground again, I don’t think people will like having to give up raid slots to a shaman or carry a shaman just so they can have lust.

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