Remove key depletion from mythic plus

This is my main. I play in EU because pugging is better there:

NA forum is more active hence why I posted on my NA account

Sure it is.

and this is me on EU too. If you “pug in EU” and are having issues then go post in the EU forums.

It’s hilarious that you bring this up as a positive. This will be a net-negative for pugging. You think people leaving is an issue now? Imagine people still leaving, but now you have to worry about getting kicked after a few pulls because the key holder didn’t like something.

This would be awful for pugging.

Ok good for you. I am here to state a problem which is a fact. You play with premades hence it is not an issue for you. As I said before only premades and people who play 12 hours per day are advocate for key depletion

Keys depleting causes a problem, but removing depletion does not fix the problem. It only creates more.

If you are going to advocate for something then stop with the all-or-nothing demands. Removing depletion brings too many additional and novel exploits and issues for pugs. Ask for 2-3 charges per key instead.

I don’t.

I am neither which means your argument is null and void.

Well then the profile you have posted is fake. Because all the high keys are done with the same group of people

That was the point. There’s no way to verify if someone posting on NA is actually the person they say they are on EU. You might be new here, but we have seem many people pretend to be someone else. I am not that person, but I am 2990 from strictly pugging and only few hours a day. I have a couple friends who are pugging and are 3100.

There you go , created the ticket on main. Anyhow I am not here to brag about score . I personally only enjoy high mythic plus content and que time has just made me personally stop playing until they come up with a better solution.

Lol fair. I’ll respect that.

Queue times can suck especially if you aren’t meta in high keys. However, your ask is rather selfish because while it would be realllllly nice for pushing high keys it would create disaster for so many more.

Charges:

  • Curb score inflation that would go rampant by removing depletion completely. Would be slightly more than now, but without the ability to “re-do” unlimited times.
  • Allows key holders to feel slightly more comfortable posting their own key, but still prevents them from holding the same key level all season or all week until someone can carry them.
  • Prevents a new meta of kicking players after the first few pulls if something goes wrong. With unlimited attempts we would absolutely see it on the regular.
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I am sure low key holders would rather not have key depletion either. There is no scenario you can convince me key depletion is beneficial. Sure no key depletion has its own issues, but overall the benefits far outweight the current system. The reality is , there is no perfect solution.

Not sure I find the idea of someone being hard carried and getting to repeatedly brick 10s until they get another hard carry to be a good thing, honestly. That said, if they do this it needs to mean no more failure rewards. Timer elapses, instance resets.

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As I said, the same person can still que for other keys and ruin the effort they have made to push the key. It is really the same thing if not worst.

:rofl: Bro

That’s… Entirely irrelevant to what was said. I’m confident it’d hurt pugging to have keyholders bricking 12 times before clearing though. That said, a binary fail state would probably be a nice upside. No more vault, crests, and loot on a failure, no more depletion. It’d be interesting to see for S4.

Low key holders or people in general frequently ask for things without understanding nuance. They are only after the short sighted gains of they precious key not downgrading and not comprehending all of the other issues that I pointed out.

This is true and something we can both agree on. Keys depleting sucks, but it’s part of progression. I have been advocating for key charges for a while. It’s not like I want it to stay the way it is.

paladin tank and dps 2734 io and i been 2 week i cant push more never get accepted try to push my key got depleted buy a bug a crash or a dude that leave realy fun 5 time in a row got depleted buy dude that got a carry or was trolling with there io they should realy use the delve system in the m+

With all due respect sir if you’re a paladin tank who has been hard stuck at 2700 io it is very likely a self awareness or strategic group building error on your part. I would focus less on the system and more on personal analysis.

ok so 3 time back to back got key depleted by a bug instance froze when i put my key 2 time by troll leaver son this is my fault ??

if they just remove the depletion when this happen you can just remake a group a restart not having to do a lower key then get a key you dont need and farm other key to change it lol

I will guess English is not your first language, which is totally fine. I am just having a real hard time figuring out what you’re trying to say here. I’ve never had any issues with instance freezing/crashing the game, if that’s what you mean.

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instance froze had to use character stuck to get out of it 3 time then got depleted buy a troll 2 time and now with all the carry io you cant be sur of who you invite and trying to get invite if you are not meta its hard in dps and in tank they take the highest io they see