whats missing is the spamming of spender abilities
Yes because iâm clearly complaining about serenity and its DPS increase. Iâm complaining about the loss of a fun ability regardless of dps. and imagine if they added another line that makes it useful in serenity. wouldnât be that hard.
you like spamming nothing but BoK+RSK?
or is it the BoK+SCK spam you like?
not to mention clipping every FoF.
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Well, I understand the arguments for removing serenity.
But, at the same time, SEF is extremely buggy, it has disavantages in PVP with AOE CCs (same for xuen here), and it is a summon ability on top of another mandatory summon ability.
So having the option would be nice, even if it wasnât best.
Or they could work towards a new CD button that replaces Serenity and can be an alternative to SEF (same could be said for xuen).
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You clearly like using the strawman logical fallacy, I know I shouldnât engage with it but gd Iâm going to.
Yeah you donât just spam rsk and BOK. Hitting the hardest damaging abilities is fun gameplay. In fact, at least in PvP and in the war within alpha, you will never ever clip unless your target moves out of your FoF. Clipping FoF in live, for pvp mind you which is my main game mode, is so bad especially against melee comps due to FoF becoming essentially a 90% phys dr that does massive dam and during your cooldowns you become insanely tanky with constant periods of basically immunity to physical.
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If they donât want to give us back original Tigereye, at least give us Legion Alpha Tigereye.
Iâd be happy camper with that
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as you said you only play/care about PvP. wow isnt a PVP game now is it.
its not straw man, its just bad game design. not to mention you ignore TP during Serenity entirely so you get no use of Teachings.
you guys also want skyreach back.
if we get Serenity back blizzard has no reason to fix the issues you have with SEF now do they.
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PvP is a pillar of the end game. As stated by the developers. PvP players pay their sub too just like you and we deserve to have our voices heard
Yes wow is a PvP game and itâs also a pve game itâs literally a core part of the game regardless of if you choose to interact with it or not. [god you pve only/ pve supremacist gamers have some hot takes in any game with optional pvp. Why are you so opposed to everyone getting what they want through a choice node? Itâs literally win win. Donât like it donât play it?]
I canât mythic raid on 10 different characters now can I? The only game mode that doesnât become the same and dull after a certain point is PvP so thatâs why I play it so much.
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i pvp and i pve, i simply dont care about getting countered by fears and roots when i use SEF. because thats CC being used on me instead of my partner. thats CC being used to try and stop damage instead of securing a kill.
because then they wont fix the issues SEF has in PVP that you guys are so opposed to.
ask for SEF to be fixed, not Serenity back.
No, I donât want to play with sef i want to play with serenity and will continue asking for it back. stop telling people to do otherwise.
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The entire game was built and marketed towards having a pvp world.
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And then when drs are up theyâll CC for the kill
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The only fix is to revert it back to original version
Yea because Blizz never developed Serenity and only nerfed it since they put it in the game.
Yes. RSK hits like a truck. And it hit a lot harder when Serenity was a 40% amp.
Thatâs not entirely true. The extra CDR from BoK would let us BoK+RSK a lot more consistently in Serenity with arguably less SCKs.
FoF should have a talent that modifies it for ST.
TP ainât a big contributor to our damage, and the raw CDR of machine gunning BoKs with Serenity and Ordered Elements would be more consistent than the RNG of TotM.
Yes because you can do hilarious teleports with it. The crit should go, and the range should be increased by 10-15 yards to piss off ranged and let us pull off more reliable teleports.
Yes they do. If crap is bugged, it should be fixed. However, Blizz only fixes bugs with WW (and monk in general) if we benefit/do cool stuff with it like the WW only raid from aberrus that cheesed the absolute crap out of it because of a bug with our tier. Or when Blizz fixed the old damage bug that happened at the end of SEF where your clones would do 100% of your damage. Or when blizz fixed CD snapshotting with Serenity.
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youre also forgetting you could clip things in-between FoF with SEF and your clones would continue to FoF the full duration.
The only people I have seen that say they like Serenity are PVPers⊠and from the sounds of things they like it because it acts as an Iwin button.
Its a terrible ability and its good that it is going way.
If you just want to spam a couple buttons that hit hard then Fury warrior should be perfect for you.
Pfffff I wish it was as strong as you make it sound in PvP. I PvE and PvP, and I prefer Serenity over SEF. In terms of potential, Serenity has leagues more of it that was never explored, and itâs a nice change of pace during burst from our rotation. Meanwhile, to improve SEF, Blizz basically tacked half of Serenity onto it and people are cheering like Palpatine just became emperor.
People keep saying this and the reason they give is that we overcap on resources, which is a fair reason. However, Blizz NEVER did anything to make the overcap worth it. In fact, Blizz has only ever made Serenity worse. Your displeasure is misdirected. Rather than be salty about Serenityâs resource overcap, your ire is better directed at wondering why Blizz never improved Serenity.
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I also enjoyed serenity (i only pve), and i have meet many people who where not pvpers, and enjoyed serenity. So everyones experience is abit difference. Not to invalidate Dirusj experiences but i have meet many people who enjoyed the serenity play style (who where not pvpers).
I totally agree with what your saying yangxiaolong, if they would quit nerfing serenity and improve it, then we would have a very nice second choice we can have.
Well here is hoping we see it make a return.
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Itâs def far from an I win button. But between sef and serenity itâs the only actual dps cooldown you have seeing as how you are likely to do less than base damage in storm earth and fire.
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