Remove Faerin From The Story, She Doesn't Have a Place and Feels horribly Forced

I agree with Rat

What you’re saying is true, but besides the point. We need trolls and orcs too.

I do wish they’d bring back some of those WotLK female outfits though.
Idk why we got so modest over the years

I take issue with it.

On top of every other problem “she” has, she looks like your typical liberal woman… a man.

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I know. That’s why I called you miserable lol

I’m miserable for not wanting women to look like dudes?

That’s some weird logic.

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No (I mean, yes, but that’s not the point).

I think you’re miserable because you’re having a tantrum about it lol

It’s perfectly fine to want to see attractive people, but if it’s the only qualifier for you to enjoy a game and you end up crashing out this hard when you can’t, then clearly the problem isn’t the way the women are designed in the game. You have some deep-seeded personal issues that need worked out because normal people don’t respond this way to things lol

Like, presumably you’re an adult man (or woman). I’d expect you to have the vocabulary to eloquently articulate your frustrations rather than whining like a petulant man baby because his game doesn’t have enough attractive boobage for his enjoyment lmao

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I agree she is a badly writen character and honestly the fact that more and more of these type of characters are popping up in just about every form of media is disturbing.

I have disabilitys and know people with lost limbs and let me tell you the moment someone would offer a good prosthesis instead of that i’m going to be blunt here nub hold of a shield anyone would jump at the chance you know why?

People want some sence of normalitly some people think it’s for everyone else but in reality it’s for the person with the lost limb you basicly have to relearn everything again once you lose a limb and she lost her blocking arm so yeah she would want the prosthesis because part of using a shield is that while the shield will take a brunt of the blow it still sends shockwaves through you arm which helps disapate the blow, all that force is basicly getting shoved into the nub and unless she is constantly using holy magic to losen the pain that gonna be debilitating.

She is also a mery sue and honestly they are never fun to have around because they never have a journey they are just perfect have no flaws and never lose if try and say oh but she lost a arm as a defence NO we shouldn’t let that be a shield to let these type of characters through and shame on the devs for trying to use a disability as a shield.

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Your elusiveness is your prerogative. I also don’t talk to bigoted racists so I’ll call it even steven.

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“Blizzard making another ‘goodest paladin boy/girl/enby’ to be the moral center of the plot is trite, overdone and they need to find a new avenue for interesting characters” and “the WoW playerbase by and large has a level of racism that would make an ICE officer tell you to calm down” are two sentences that can and should co-exist.

I greatly dislike Faerin. But it’s for the exact same reasons I dislike Anduin, and Bolvar, and Turalyon, and Calia, and Post-TBC Liadrin, and Arator, and Uthe- actually no, Uther’s cool. He can stay.

Lightmongers are horribly overdone in WoW, and they’re only interesting when they’re going off the deep end into a pit of zealotry and fire. But nine times out of ten, when a lightmonger shows up the story bends over backwards to make them the moral center of peace and love and friendship. This is only exacerbated with characters like Anduin, Bolvar and Turalyon, who get this framing while being borderline sociopathic morons.

It’s not Faerin’s fault that she’s boring. She’s a character archetype that WoW has completely run into the ground. And yes, a lot of people’s dislike of her is just racism because they’ll turn around and praise the other boring lightmongers.

If Faerin had shown up like “Ah, outsiders. Wanna scrap? Let me see how you move in a fight” and embodied a gladiator warrior instead of a prot paladin, she’d have been the coolest character in the game. You wouldn’t even need to change her story, just her attitude. Why do we have to talk in soft baby tones when dealing with Anduin’s baby problems? Faerin should be hitting him with the harsh truth of “Yeah sometimes you hurt people. That’s life. It moves on. What are you so scared of?”

That’s not what we get. She’s nice to a level that is just patronizing. Our characters are people who have slain gods, we should be more casual with her. We should be on more even ground. She’s a soldier, I’m a soldier, why are we talking like we’re on an episode of Steven Ubermensch.

Faerin in one questline says she relates more to the Orcs. If that’s the case, where’s the bite? Where’s the boisterousness? Where’s the sparring for no reason other than it’s the best way to bond with someone? Me and Faerin should be putting each other in headlocks going “I like this one! She takes a hit!”

Instead she’s just the softest uwu cinnamon roll, and we threw the last one of those down a hole two expansions ago.

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He still has and uses a prosthetic. He is still disabled. Using an assistive technology or device does not make you not disabled. His prosthetic is not a normal human arm, it has use and care needs that he would not have if he had both of his own natural arms.

Seeing someone as no longer disabled because they have a functional prosthetic is ableist.

She looks like a woman, you just have crap taste in women.

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You’re making a false equivalence between a futuristic piece of fictional technology and a real-world prosthetic arm. Bucky’s arm is made of vibranium and seems to fully replicate the functionality of a real human arm, and then goes beyond that in terms of its strength and durability. At that point he’s effectively no longer disabled unless someone has a way to deactivate the arm.

Giving Faerin an enchanted mechanical arm runs the risk of repeating this trope, and even if the Hallowfall Arathi can’t do that kind of magic, getting an arm from them would inevitably lead to the arm being upgraded by Jaina or Khadgar or any number of other magic-users. Or, she might replace her arm with a Light construct, kind of like how Turalyon replaced the broken tip of his sword with Light.

My point is that it’s really easy to succumb to the temptation to “just fix it with magic/tech” whenever some kind of physical disability presents itself in a fantasy setting. It’s well-intentioned, but it results in a disabled character no longer having meaningful disability representation, because they’ve fixed their issue with something far beyond the capabilities of earthly medical science. They do it in comic books all the time. Batgirl got permanently paralyzed and became a different superhero called Oracle, but she quickly got fully healed and went back to being Batgirl again. That’s basically disability erasure.

This is why the writers had Faerin refuse a prosthetic, because they know how easy it would be to turn that prosthetic into a super-arm.

It’s ableist to keep taking disabled characters and then removing their disability with a fix that real-world disabled people don’t have the option of taking. It makes the unspoken suggestion that we are somehow “broken” or “inferior” because we can’t fix our problems with magic.

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Faerin is the only memorable or useful character introduced since the end of Shadowlands. DF was a totally forgettable expansion and now TWW is shaping up to need a renaming as “The War on Original Content” since there’s been so little of it.

Particularly with Blizzards obsession with only female characters lately, Faerin is most interesting. Xal’atath is pretty stale at this point. I think I’d hope she just gets eaten by a void lord:

I am also disabled and I completely disagree. A prosthetic is still a prosthetic, not a regrown arm. It still has issues due to being a prosthetic, even if they are different issues than someone in real life would have with the current prosthetics we have access to.

One example, in the case of Bucky: his prosthetic does not change weight. If he doesn’t keep his fitness levels up to support it, it won’t get smaller/lighter like his normal arm will due to muscle atrophy, it will simply put more stress on his body as he becomes more imbalanced. This is something he has to manage because he has a prosthetic.

Likewise, his prosthetic can be disabled and removed by someone else trivially easily. This would not be true of his flesh and blood arm. So his prosthetic causes him to have different vulnerabilities and weaknesses than someone who is able bodied. He is still disabled.

That you can’t imagine or see the issues he could have because of having a prosthetic does not mean they do not exist and that he is the same as someone who is not disabled.

So I have no real personal stake in this prosthetic thing and this is a bit of a tangent but I recently replayed Deus Ex and now I’m actually curious:

Are augmented people in a cyberpunk setting who not only retain full functionality but gain enhanced abilities considered disabled?

Like, is Adam Jensen considered a disabled character?

Only if you take the “upgrade” or gets hit with an emp.

I would just be happy to see more Horde interaction. It’s all Humans these days, so freaking boring. Disabled, brown, white, black, male, female, doesn’t matter, all boring. Gimme some Horde representation.

Imagine being this pathetic of a person.

The first time I played Human Revolution I got the “upgrade” because I am not a smart person.

Can you show or direct me to any part in the story where her disability is show as a burden, hinderance, challenge, or struggle of any kind? If you can’t; her disability is cosmetic anyways and your whole post is kinda moot point.

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It’s not. And that is what has some people cheesed off. How dare a person missing an arm do things a two armed person does in a fantasy game.

It’s just whiny stupidity.

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