When there was no deserter debuff for getting kicked from a dungeon, tanks would deliberately try to get kicked if they didn’t like the dungeon. There was other obnoxious behavior from players in other roles as well who would try to get kicked to avoid the deserter debuff as well; I just remember running into that tank situation quite a few times. It is irritating getting a deserter debuff when connection problems or the game bugging out led to the rest of the group kicking me before I was able to log back in, but it’s still better than it was before with intentional trolling.
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You’ve been picking apart op’s statement so much it’s just trolling at this point.
The deserter debuff is not only unnecessary it makes the rampant troll reporting in groups worse. Arguing that op somehow deserved the kick instead is trolling. I leveled 12 toons in TWW and that behavior was rampant, whether op deserved it or not, and the debuff should go.
Just to clarify, the tank in this particular case ran to the first boss without hitting any mobs. I hit a single AoE button and everything aggro’d onto me. The tank was 619ish and I was on a 570 alt. If the tank had even spent a single global tagging these mobs, there is no way I would have aggro.
Until now, I haven’t responded to OP since their post, I’ve responded to the people who’ve responded to me
I never said that they deserved it, that’s a projection on your part. I asked what happened that they got aggro and died, which is a key part of their story.
Ya, the tank should be doing more than just ‘running by’ - even their most basic AoE is enough to keep aggro for most cases. I’d advise not DPSing while on the pull going forward - that you got Kicked for that is just dumb on the party’s part.
You are literally the first response to op on this thread. And you’ve done nothing but pick apart his post and anyone’s response to you. I’m unsure what you think you’re bringing to the thread that is productive.
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I am seeing this happen regularly in Timewalking dungeons against players perceived too slow, pulling the wrong groups, or generally not ‘speed-running’ well enough.
I dont see why this debuff should even be in consideration for this type of removal, and should be used for what the debuff says, abandoning the group.
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No - if tanks/heals don’t like a dungeon they would go afk otherwise until they are vote kicked out of the dungeon. They should get punished for this behavior.
However there should be also a vote option to cancel a dungeon completely if the entire group agrees (without getting deserteur in that case).
Also we still have the bug that people get deserteur when they leave an LFR wing after they got a loot ID for every boss in that wing.
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Wasn’t this only a problem when people actually needed to do the Daily Heroic dungeon for Badges/Valor?
Outside of leveling dungeons and the Weekly (which can be done in Follower mode) who’s using LFG for anything meaningful.
I just got vote kicked for running on a Warlock without a speed set to keep up with the tank. The priest had buffed them so they could float down without the lift. By the time I’d got there (and found a toy I could use), the lift came back up, but, because they’d pulled the boss, promptly locked closed. They killed the next one before I could get down to the level below. At which point I got kicked from the group and a sodding 30 minute debuff. I had even typed in chat that the lift wasn’t working. Some people are so impatient, it’s sad that they don’t care about ruining someone else’s experience.
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