Ashran is a terrible experience. The option to not include certain BG’s during randoms was removed? WHY? To force people to play the lesser liked BG’s? No one would que Ashran if not for the random BG selecting it.
The battleground is not played the way it was intended at all.
The battleground is simply a 40vs40 brawl in the center with terrible FPS drops.
Nothing is fun about it, you just run around and kill whoever is closest with button mashing or just straight up die all while getting FPS like you’re playing on a computer from 2002. The lag is absolutely ridiclous.
If anything Tol-Barad should be a epic BG before Ashran. Wintergrasp is also a terrible epic BG but still “OK”.
I’m playing on a 3600x and 5700xt so inb4 “Buy a better computer”
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Trying to open a ticket but why there is no way to contact customer service with this issue. Ashran is designed for horde to win easily. I ran about 40 Ashran after shadowlands was out, and I won only once or twice. This is not working, it’s beyond that alliance sucks in general or you are very unlucky to be in bad teams. The horde mage is more difficult to kill, they have rares gives you benefits and sunflower with buff just next to their base to start. It’s really discouraging and it makes more people stop playing or be afk. It feels like intentionally you make lose alliance. Could you please fix this issue or just erase it from the list. I wasted so much time to try to win Ashran.
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The horde mage is more difficult to kill
Horde Mage is “hard” because 95% of the time, Alliance zerg rush to Horde mage right at the start to try and get a quick, easy win. While Horde just stick around and kill the bird guy right next to base while waiting to wipe the inevitable Alliance derp rush to Mage.
Then Horde can go get Ogre immediately after without resistance because Alliance is rezzing and having to run back, and the rest is history at that point.
they have rares gives you benefits and sunflower with buff just next to their base to start.
Alliance too has rares near their base that would help them win, but they always ignore them at the start.
Horde got easy access to rares, that’s for sure.
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I actually like Ashran because it feels more of a battle than IoC or AV. (I won’t even talk about WG 
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Ashran is the only Epic BG with any PvP in it. It’s infinitely better than WG/Isle where Sieges 1 shot you, that isn’t PvP. It’s better than AV where you avoid PvP to get towers down and kill a boss.
At least in Ashran you PvP over some objectives and get some KBs and HKs. I think they should double the resources needed to win though to allow for more side objectives to be completed.
Lets remove the Siege maps instead and give it the Strands of Ancients treatment thanks. Then add Tol Borad which is a great PvP map.
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So does Alliance. Panthora is just as close to Alliance as Kath is to Horde (and also right next to Ogre), and Titarus and Korthal are both closer to Alliance than Brickhouse and Mandra are to Horde.
Stop derp-rushing to Horde Mage at the start of the match (that only worked when Horde would fail to fall back and protect Mage, now Horde always expect it to happen) and instead go kill Titarus and Panthora and wait to fight it out for Ogre. Hell the main reason Horde just go Kath first is because it’s super easy to rear-flank Alliance after they rush Mage.
It definitely needs a rework. Ashran wasn’t a battleground, it was an onhoing warfront at all times. There are aspects of the battleground that are just wasted. I’m with you, it shouldn’t just be a TDM in middle. Or if they want a TDM map fine, but ashran had mechanics. Has anyone a actually killed the fort commander since WOD? I’ve been in the gates but never killed them this expac. I’d say add tickets, but would that just make it a longer Tdm?
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No.
Ashran, much like Alterac Valley, is streamlined for Horde players. They have one strategy: go pick flowers for the imbalanced flower buff, kill the rare for the toys and class books, then react to whatever the Alliance is doing, kill ogre, and proceed from there.
The Alliance has no such “one strat”. It’s “go kill rares, but you’ll still be at a disadvantage” (and your suggestion that Titarus is closer to the Alliance than Brickhouse is laughable, and let’s not pretend Elder Darkweaver is anything but a pushover compared to Panthora), “go zerg mage and hope for an early lead”, “wait in mid for Horde to come to us”, “pop all cooldowns and fight in the forest” or (in the past) “try to kill the boss before they know what hit them”.
And that’s before we even factor in that Jeron does more raw damage than Rylai.
To suggest that the main reason Horde goes to kill Elder Darkweaver Kath is because it’s easy to flank Alliance belongs in a book alongside Goldilocks, Humpty Dumpty and Narnia.
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Epic BG’s with vehicles are a waste. They should only be 40v40 battles, with the one shot vehicles removed.
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They need to add content, not remove it! Remember when all we had was AB and WSG over and over and over and over and over…
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That was when there was no actual goal to win the battleground, the goal was just raw PVP. World PVP was in its prime back then. Now I am very happy to have Ashran because it is by far my favorite, right next to Wintergrasp.
Ashran has tons to offer, I do also just hope they increase the reinforcement count because the sheer amount of stuff you can do in that area to get a little edge is insane. For example, my favorite, that literally no one seems to ever know about, the Solar Core in the basement, with its Permanent 20% haste. I run down there, no competition, cap it and it stays capped for the entire match. That with the unique class books off rares that add a nice competitive edge to the fight. As well as the occasional Ancient Artifact that pops up, is amazingly fun.
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Please do not remove that map! Battlegrounds are designed to amuse horde players. As a community, it is our responsibility to amuse them. Asheran is a perfect example of that. My winning rate on that map is 27% as alliance. However it is still fun to play.
Stop crying even though we are designed to lose, we still have 10-20% chance of winning isn’t it.
Its funny how suddenly all bgs favor horde.
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I will say what I say in every “Get rid of ashran” post. Let me complete the nemesis quests in other bgs/non WoD WPvP content and you can have it. Until then, nope.
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Do you have anything to disagree with? I’d love to hear why you think I’m wrong.
It’s really hard to argue that Ashran and AV aren’t tilted in the Hordes favor, just like it’d be hard to argue that IoC isn’t tilted in Alliances.
Ashran and AV are more in favor of the Horde than IoC is the Alliance though, with Ashran being the worst of the lot.
Its pretty clear Devs play horde, and that theres a massive horde bias with the EBG’s. Even some of the Normal BG’s Horde has map advantages. Alliance used to have one map with a small advantage. AV. But horde threw a pissing fit about it and now they’ve got the advantage there.
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Its really not though. Last 10 IoC’s have been horrible losses. Glaives got nerfed and demos and hanger were super buffed.
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We get to docks and hangar faster than the Horde. Of course the Alliance never learns that docks isn’t good anymore, but there’s still an advantage there whether we squander it or not.
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