Reminder that Holy is unplayably bad

Haha fair. I’ll change it =P

But my question remains. Priest is in the unique position that we aren’t locked into one healing spec, come hell or high water. We CAN swap. So wouldn’t that be the temporary solution?

The sense of identity as a particular healer can be hard to move away from, but it is an advantage of the Priest I suppose.

I would say the issue with “just play disc” is that the play style is vastly different between disc and holy while the difference between specs like hunters MM and BM aren’t as big.

I personally love playing holy I just wish it was performing better in high m+.
I can play disc and have timed higher keys with it but I just don’t enjoy it and don’t have any desire pushing higher with it

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I totally get that. It’s definitely not an easy “Fix”. Even when I’m playing a dps, I’m bummed when my preferred spec isn’t good.

I wish Holy was better, but hopefully they will get some love in 11.1

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BM was bad and I still grouped with them and they still cleared. BM was also buffed/reworked iirc.

Holy is just broken. This is not a fair comparison.

I wasn’t using BM as an example for their performance in the current expansion. I was using BM as an example of a dps spec that exists.

If you look at top M+ players Druid, Hpaly, Preservation, and Holy are all within 50 pts of each other. Yes Holy is lowest, but if it’s unplayable the other 3 mentioned would also have to be in the same boat, making more than half of healers unplayable. That is how ridiculous the OP’s post is.

2nd point Priest is the only healer with 2 healing specs in the same class. Your top healers are going to min/max so that lends to say that the best players are not playing holy making it look worse than it actually is. So it’s almost certainly on par with the other 3 if not better. This is how Blizzard is going to look at it as it is how they have looked at it in the past.

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If you don’t play it, and/or don’t understand what we’re talking about then don’t comment. Seriously.

No one here is talking about a number. Or a parce. Or Archon rankings. We’re talking about HOW the class plays and how it FEELS to play. We’re talking about why most of our talents are dead. We’re talking about crutching on Lightweaving and having literally nothing else. We’re talking about having no mobility. We’re talking about having no interrupt. We’re talking about a serious lack of defensives. We’re talking about our dispel profile being a joke. We’re talking about having so much bloat in our talents I wonder if it would matter if you didn’t take any as long as you could unlock HaLo.

We’re talking about how I can play FPS’s competitively but when I get out of a dungeon as Holy my ARM freaking hurts from how frantic and stupid the Flash Heal/Heal spam is but having no other damn options. We’re talking about how if my dps don’t play perfectly with THEIR cooldowns then there is literally dick all I can do for them, I’m busy Flash Healing this OTHER guy who decided he didn’t need to defensive that attack.

We’re talking about why my Holy Priest in 2024 feels INDISTINGUISHABLE from my lvl 35 Holy Priest in 2006 Classic spamming Flash Heal/Heal in Scarlet freaking Monastery except the former is moving at such a frantic break neck pace and still can’t effectively heal AoE damage.

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Unplayable and not enjoyable are two different things. Perhaps word your grievances better, because factually you are wrong. It is very playable, but you’re just not finding it enjoyable in the least.

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While I’m at it, looking at the tippy top percentage of players that manage to make it work (admittedly miserably) while the grand majority just say f it and shelve it does not = playable. But I figure you’ll argue semantics there too.

Then they’re even worse at this than even I thought they were. But luckily, you don’t speak for them.