What about rating getting you conquest gear faster like in WoD and MoP?
Functionally, it is the same as having gear gated behind rating, in that you will have better gear than unrated players throughout the season. Only at the very end would an unrated player get a full set of conquest.
Blizzard (when they made the best PVP expansions) removed rating requirements:
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Exactly…
Yea, I’m also wondering if this new system is going to destroy PvP alts? Will we go back to the Cata sytem of “oh hey it’s the middle of the season, might as well wait 2 months instead of gearing right now.”
I guess if the PvP vendor sells trophies to boost ilvl up to your max rating it wouldn’t destroy alts, provided that conquest catch-up is still a thing.
Doing arena doesn’t make you better at random BGs. It makes you better at arena. That’s why this Glad achieve UHDK ends up rage quitting against a scrub UHDK even though he had to be killed three times since he was getting healed by a resto druid.
Arena titles do not impress me. Good gameplay when it matters does.
Actually, he is 100% wrong which is why you upvote and agree with him. The top dogs in a random BG aren’t always going to be people with high rating.
Not always but more often than not they are.
WoD had vendors that were nice, but it also had gear scaling in combat, this helped full time pvpers compete vrs pvers with high end gear, system should be put back in place.
You’re hilarious.
And you are narrow-minded and not intelligent if you actually think doing arena makes you better a pvper for random BGs.
I mean dude random bgs aren’t hard, but rating doesn’t prove skill. So both of you are arguing on flawed stances.
However random bg is 100% easier than 2k arenas.
Not really my point.
I’m saying he is narrow-minded because he seems to think that arena is the only pvp that matters.
We have arena, rated bgs, random bgs, dueling, world pvp. They are all pvp but in different formats. They require different knowledge, different builds and different playstyles.
You generally only get good at things that you actually do. That is why some high rated players don’t do well on their own. But, also, I would never say being good at random BGs means you will do well in arena which is a laughable thing to say. But, that isn’t what I’m saying.
Arena is the hardest pvp format to do well in, but being good at arena doesn’t mean you are going to be good at things that you don’t do.
No, he said do some arena, it will make you a better pvper. And this is true, it will because it’s less confusion. I mean, you can replace arena with rated BGs even if that makes you feel better.
Or they were carried to their rating and aren’t very good, hence why I said rating isn’t really the best indicator of skill
Playing arena or rated BGs is not going to make me better at random BGs. I mean, it could be helpful for more inexperienced players but I’ve been doing this for awhile.
Here is my monk in a match against a five man rated BG preform and a three man with high rated people: gladiators, grand marshals, hero of the alliance.
Why did they lose if they are so much better than me and the people I was playing with casually?
Be sure to watch the grand marshal rogue and gladiator hunter get punked right after the garrison side comments on free action potions.
Never said it’s 100%, but for a lot of people it would help them improve.
Yep, lots of those as well. But, I’m fairly sure that you would have done better than this multi rank 1 monk in this duel.
Agreed, but at a certain point there isn’t really much an experienced player is going to get from arena or rated BGs to make them better at random BGs just because of how dissimilar they are.
Unless they are doing a bunch of 3v3s at objectives or something. 
Considering I have beaten quite a lot of the r1 monks in duels isn’t really proof of anything other than I know how to beat up monks.
That is actually kind of my point. Different formats of pvp. They are better at arena (which happens to involve the people you are playing with being good too, so that is kind of hard to pin on an individual) and you are better at mirror monk dueling than the ones you beat.
Of course, one matters and the other doesn’t… or does it? To some people, it does.
Well you just learn a lot more about classes imo.